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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army if the

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game is rigged change the game

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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how you doing how you doing today's

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a bunker that is somewhere in the middle

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a total undisclosed location but it is

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beautiful it is it's really nice in here

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changer network and kg r a the planet

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racehobbs

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how are you doing

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yeah man i'm in a great mood

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great mood it has been an amazing week

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on the show we've got a new bunker

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yeah

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really strange lots of lots of weirdness

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seriously it's cool though i mean

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i'd freak out i'll talk about more of

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that in just a minute

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i want to announce that tonight we have

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a very special guest here anjali

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anjali is here for the first time that

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and we are going to be discussing her

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plans

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to return to an et base located

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somewhere in the mojave desert there's a

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lot of chatter out there um on on the

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internet uh about this base and its

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location and

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and what is what is going on and

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and uh i'm very very excited to have

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anjali on the show and

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and and gather this information i want

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to know and i'm not that far at

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i'm in the mojave desert but the deal is

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the mojave desert is like this big

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and you know it spans all the way across

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the bottom of california all the way

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so uh we'll we'll talk about all of this

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tonight and of course her background

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and uh the whole story i want to know

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i've never seen anything like it and i

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that's gonna be fine and she's over

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there this isn't acting up so i don't

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five minutes before you saw my face like

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this is this is crazy to me

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okay i'm gonna post this on twitter

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and uh yeah just so just so you guys can

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my world

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that's it that's that did it right

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man it just doesn't make any sense let

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did it go out

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there it is check that out

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i mean and it's it's that but it's like

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flickering back and forth it's like

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it's in motion so there you go i gotta

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yeah there's nothing there it's weird in

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the picture you can see stuff in the

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background i don't see that it's just

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all right let me get back to the show

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let me get back to the show follow me on

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twitter at j church radio the sandboxes

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hashtag f2b

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on twitter we don't bite come and hang

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out with all of us hello to everybody

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out there all around the world kg r a

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um where else facebook youtube

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um talk stream live

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uh the bunker cam the website

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uh spreaker i heart radio i don't know

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what else is left but hello to everybody

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out there listening all around the world

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okay

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ah gremlins

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gremlins that's that's that's a bizarre

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one maybe the monitor just went bad i i

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don't know but it was with anjali right

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right could could could one of the

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agencies be running interference

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i'm just saying that's crazy all right

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let's get to the breaking news because i

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want to get to the bottom of the hour

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and get to anjali breaking news

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mark

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dalstanch crosses the atlantic

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in a row boat

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story at 11. no i'm going to give it to

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you right now dale stanch set off from

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new york on june 13th in his 23-foot

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boat carrying about 200 kilograms worth

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he arrived at saint mars united kingdom

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early on monday august 23rd

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and he says that he will arrive in

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london in about 10 to 14 days to make

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things official that's right new york to

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in a row boat now i went to see where st

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and i thought man how long can it take

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then i saw it on the map yeah that looks

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like 10 to 14 days it would take me

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so there you go it's a cool looking boat

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he's got it's a rowboat it's got a

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little thing to sleep in it's it's

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high-tech but it's a rowboat it's like a

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new york to london absolutely incredible

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yesterday here in southern california

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a small airplane made an emergency

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landing on the southbound interstate 5

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near del mar in san diego's north county

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now this is what's crazy about it

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traffic stopped both directions it was

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there's a plane landing on on the

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freeway confused and stunned the

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motorist right there

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a plane in the carpool lane the

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single-engine piper p832 aircraft made

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its landing sometime around 12 15 pm

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yesterday with several emergency

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vehicles rushing to the scene

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still unclear while the pilot landed on

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the freeway nobody knows but the fa said

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they're gonna get to the bottom of it

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there is now an investigation of the

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incident absolutely crazy well check

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this out

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an alaska airlines flight was forced to

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evacuate after a passenger's cell phone

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caught fire

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alaska airlines flight 751 was forced to

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evacuate all 129 passengers

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after landing at seattle tacoma

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international airport this past monday

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when a samsung galaxy s21

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burst into flames

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the only reason they were able to figure

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out uh the model

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was from an interview with the phone's

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owner after everyone had gotten off the

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plane

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safely now

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samsung's been dealing with exploding

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phones for a long time remember the s9

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remember remember all of that well here

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it comes s21

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exploding on an airplane absolutely

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incredible now this is a great story a

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fossil discovered during a police raid

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in brazil

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has turned out to be one of the best

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preserved flying reptiles ever found

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the raid was in 2013.

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brazilian federal police recovered about

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3 000 specimens kept in storage units

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and transferred them to the geosciences

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institute of the university of sao paulo

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for study

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it took eight years to discover the

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pterosaur

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the remains were found preserved in six

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perfectly complementary yellowish

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limestone slabs

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that fit together to present a nearly

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complete picture of the creature

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it had a wingspan

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of more than eight feet

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this fossil was found with more than 90

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percent of its skeleton intact

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along with some soft tissue in place

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around the bones now this is the deal

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they found skulls they found pieces and

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bones of this pterosaur in brazil before

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but never a complete skeleton this is

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absolutely incredible let's get this

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show cracking happy birthday to today

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tim burton is 63

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alexander skarsgard is 45 true blood

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really good in the stand too

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jean simmons today is 72 jazz great

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wayne shorter is 88 another jazz great

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pat martino today is 77

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the great one

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rob halford the metal god

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today is 70 years old elvis costello i

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remember when i first met rob

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let me back this up standing out at the

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front of his house and

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i was smoking a cigarette you know and i

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i forget how old i was i was in my 30s

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and

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thinking 70 that was 26 years ago but i

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remember

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him telling me that he was 44 and he was

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today he's 70. happy birthday rob elvis

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costello today is 67.

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keyboard great jeff downes today is 69.

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the buggles video killed the radio star

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first video ever played on mtv that's

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jeff downes also was in yes and in asia

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and

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vivian campbell

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is 59 of course d.o and def leppard our

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dead guy's birthday today is

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bob mayo

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1951-2004

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died at the age of 52.

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bob was a keyboardist of course a

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guitarist of course

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but he was also a drummer more on that

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in just a moment

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best known for his work with peter

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frampton and those famous words on

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frampton comes alive bob mayo on

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keyboards

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bob mayo right

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in 1992 mayo returned with peter

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frampton and recorded the album phantom

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comes alive too

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[Music]

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on february 23rd 2004

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bob was touring with peter in basel

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switzerland when he had a heart attack

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and died he was just 52 years old now

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about his drumming

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um i go to see peter frampton at market

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square arena rick derringer opened right

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so i go to this concert

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and i'm guessing it was

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the summer of 1977 it was right before

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or fall of 77

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it was right before i moved to panama

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anyway

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so i go to market square arena

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and uh rick darringer's opening uh rick

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derringer's off the stage and now and

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i'm a big peter frampton fan peter

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frampton comes out right frampton comes

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alive and

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right crazy times great well frampton

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comes out

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and he walks right up to the microphone

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and he says

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uh our our drummer

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john simus

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is sick

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he's not going to be playing tonight

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but the good news is

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bob mayo told me he can play the drums

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i was like what

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so bob mayo played drums that night uh

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they had no keyboards all that magical

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keyboard i think they may have you know

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but the point is

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they went straight three-piece

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right um stanley sheldon right i think

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the the bass player's name i'm going for

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memory bob mayo on drums peter frampton

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on guitar

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and it was an amazing concert it was

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amazing bob mayo happy birthday man yeah

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you were a great drummer too as well

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blew my mind

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on this day in history otd 1835

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the first in a series of articles

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announcing the discovery of life on the

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moon

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appears in the new york sun newspaper

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this was in 1835

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readers were completely taken in by the

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story and failed to recognize it

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as satire

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now collectively known as

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the great moon hoax

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look it up

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on this day in 1835

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fader fact now this is right here man

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fader fact

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kenneth

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child

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in sherman oaks california

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he filed for a restraining order to stop

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his neighbor's kids

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from playing basketball

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claiming

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it dropped the value of his house

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by 100

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dollars

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well

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he's a lawyer too what an idiot

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the court

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said denied

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rumors are those kids are still playing

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basketball and they play all night long

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right outside of his bedroom window

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there you go that's your fader fact

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kenneth child that's why i don't like

404
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tonight we have very special guest

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anjali is here for the first time we're

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going to be discussing her plans

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to return to an e.t base that she

408
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visited before

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right i don't know the whole story

410
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but she wants to return to the base it

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is located

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somewhere in the mojave desert she's

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going to do this with a team of

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scientists and researchers

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uh and i guess i would do it with a

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production crew right

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and maybe me i would like to go

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and uh so that's uh what we're gonna

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discuss tonight i want all of the

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details

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um this is uh certainly uh all over the

422
00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:02,559
internet right now and anjali did do a

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live

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00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:06,640
uh press conference in front of the

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lincoln memorial in washington dc

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and i watched that live and we're going

427
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to discuss all of that and more

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00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:16,720
when she joins us here at the bottom of

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the hour and uh there you go tomorrow

430
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:21,039
night's another fader night with open

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lines

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all night long all right let me hit this

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river moon coffee what's my time here

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okay

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i do hold on

436
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gremlins man

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00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:43,669
oh so i wanted to let everybody know so

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be before the show

439
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,840
uh we're doing a sound check with anjali

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and uh

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it's the reason why we do sound checks

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00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:57,039
uh her microphone isn't working

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00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:58,080
and

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those aren't working

445
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,600
uh very strange uh switch computers

446
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,440
got everything up and running everything

447
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:09,840
is cool video everything is fine but the

448
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:11,360
point being

449
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,559
that uh while all of that is going on

450
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:16,480
and we're dealing with that but but

451
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,080
everything's cool right everything's

452
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:21,280
fine now so but while that is going on

453
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:23,919
my monitor starts freaking out

454
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:25,679
now um

455
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:27,760
let me say this that

456
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uh

457
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:30,720
i have built up

458
00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:34,720
uh this studio over the last

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00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:38,080
13 years 12 years 13 2008.

460
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:41,360
what is now is 2021 you do the math is

461
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:43,039
that 13 years

462
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:45,200
yeah yeah i think so

463
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:46,080
and

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00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:49,279
this whole thing

465
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:51,200
start it off

466
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:53,039
i want to take you back

467
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and i was thinking about this before the

468
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:56,720
show so everything that i prepped

469
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,520
uh

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00:24:01,830 --> 00:23:59,279
is is off the table

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00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,840
because it took me back and i have to

472
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:03,360
appreciate

473
00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:04,880
what i have here

474
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,720
i don't freak out anymore i i totally

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00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:09,919
get

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00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,600
this

477
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:13,760
it's insane it's beautiful i wish you

478
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:15,919
could all just come in and and hang out

479
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:17,360
with me

480
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:18,799
but uh

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00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,440
it started out

482
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:24,000
in our living room

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in a small guest house

484
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,640
uh in north hollywood

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00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,400
couch

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00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,240
coffee table

487
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:36,159
computer

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uh that i still have actually um

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and a microphone and a pair of

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00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,640
headphones

491
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:48,960
obviously no video that's how it started

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in my living room

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right with dogs

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00:25:02,310 --> 00:24:58,480
kids

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and uh

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00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,200
yeah

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00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:05,679
the living room the kitchen's right here

498
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:07,279
guest house

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00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:11,440
and and that's and and slowly things got

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built up

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and um

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and i've always had

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uh even though if i had one piece of

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00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,919
gear i tried to get the best piece that

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i could afford

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and instead of having a lot of things

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00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:28,320
that were cheaper i just went with the

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00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:31,360
best of the best and slowly built up now

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00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:32,480
today

510
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it's one two three four five i removed

511
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:39,520
one computer so i've got five computers

512
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:42,400
i've got three audio interfaces i've got

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one two three four five six seven

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compressors

515
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um a

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a

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by 10

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00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:56,799
headphone amplifier which is absolutely

519
00:26:03,350 --> 00:25:59,360
incredible then i've got another

520
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:03,360
six eight uh mono compressors in one row

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00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:07,760
thank you tascam then i've got an audio

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00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:11,679
uh feed uh playback device

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00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,640
uh also tascam and the remote control

524
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:17,039
forward is right here very nice right a

525
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:18,799
full color screen and this remote

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00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:19,840
control

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00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:22,559
that plays back the commercials at one

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00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:27,360
point i literally had an mp3 player that

529
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:29,840
played back my commercials a little mp3

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00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:32,480
player and i went out of that and into

531
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:35,520
and that's what i played i literally

532
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:37,840
and now i've got this and i've got this

533
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:41,039
rack of gear over here and i've got

534
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:42,320
separate lit

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00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,640
keyboards here and here

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00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:46,640
uh i've got uh

537
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:50,159
all the mice are all laid out and wired

538
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:51,840
i've got this beautiful desk i've got

539
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:54,159
this great mackie console

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00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:55,600
um

541
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:57,279
things and i just look around and the

542
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,400
soundproofing and and this massive desk

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00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:02,240
and it goes all the way over to there

544
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:04,159
i've got another table full of stuff

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00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:05,440
over here

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00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:07,039
of course these guitars behind me i've

547
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,360
got three

548
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:11,039
video cameras in front of me i've got

549
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:15,120
the studio lights up above me and and

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00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:16,720
i'm appreciative

551
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:20,000
it's it's not normally like this and it

552
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:21,760
hasn't been like this but back to my

553
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:23,440
point with all of this

554
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:27,120
it all runs it's all new these monitors

555
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:30,159
are two months old right everything is

556
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:31,520
perfect

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00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:34,880
everything is right and the wiring and

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00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,200
and i can come in and turn on the

559
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,360
switches and light this studio up and

560
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:41,520
everything works and

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00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,840
and today this monitor went down i

562
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,760
didn't freak out

563
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,520
right

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00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:49,440
i'm over that

565
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:52,960
i used to freak like yesterday the audio

566
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,440
went down uh for the intro of the show i

567
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:57,840
didn't freak

568
00:28:02,789 --> 00:27:59,919
you know whatever i i

569
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:02,799
i and and back to my point

570
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:06,240
i i said all of this for a reason

571
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:09,600
back when i did sports

572
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:11,679
for three years

573
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,799
never

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00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:14,799
a problem

575
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:18,640
computers internet microphones sound

576
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:21,679
audio phones things

577
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:22,720
never

578
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:25,600
a blip

579
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:27,520
nothing

580
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:31,039
start doing ufos

581
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:33,919
there's issues every day

582
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,960
every day every day there's something

583
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:38,399
something is going on something goes

584
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:40,799
down and you don't know i don't mention

585
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:43,279
it i don't freak out i don't say

586
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:46,159
anything and and it's just the way that

587
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:47,440
it is

588
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,720
coincidence

589
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,799
you know and so today anjali's on the

590
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:56,720
show this is a big show it's a great

591
00:29:03,750 --> 00:28:59,520
show it's a cool show she's got issues

592
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:03,760
i've got issues this and that and then

593
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:07,360
and it was never like this before

594
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,240
when when uh i see the stuff that pops

595
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:12,159
up in twitter the nsa is listening you

596
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:13,600
know they're interfering with ci you

597
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:16,960
know what that stuff's not a joke

598
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,559
i really need it's it and all you can do

599
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,880
is just roll with it

600
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:24,720
you've got to put up with the fight

601
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:27,360
you've got to do it and and

602
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,240
freaking out or saying things or getting

603
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:32,320
people all wound up that doesn't do any

604
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:33,440
good

605
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:36,640
it just doesn't matter

606
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,880
remember me yesterday

607
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,559
it just doesn't matter

608
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:42,480
the show's gonna happen it's gonna go on

609
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:43,840
it just doesn't matter

610
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:47,520
mess with me do whatever you want yeah

611
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,480
yeah

612
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:50,640
when this started today i swear i was

613
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:53,360
waiting for something to pop up the fbi

614
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:55,520
has seized control of your website you

615
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,159
know whatever

616
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:00,559
and it wouldn't have surprised me

617
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:02,559
it just doesn't matter the show was

618
00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:04,880
going to go on run all the interference

619
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,039
that you want just go

620
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,600
and and and think about how much over

621
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the years

622
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:12,720
where the stuff is going on like right

623
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:13,520
now

624
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,799
interference

625
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,399
in in my and

626
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:20,720
and i don't know what's causing it

627
00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:23,520
right as i mentioned this

628
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,240
now am i being sensationalistic

629
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:28,720
you know am i am i just saying you know

630
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,760
i know this is not my imagination

631
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:34,000
this stuff is real

632
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:36,000
the message is going to go out i had a

633
00:30:38,590 --> 00:30:37,520
great day today

634
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:38,600
um

635
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,279
everything that needed to get done

636
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:43,679
behind the scenes with this project it

637
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:45,120
all got done

638
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:46,159
and

639
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:50,480
wow what a great fun amazing day

640
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,360
with that i am going to take my break

641
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,399
right here tonight anjali is with us

642
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:58,320
she's here for the first time and we are

643
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:01,679
going to be discussing her plans to

644
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:03,760
return to an e.t base

645
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,600
located somewhere

646
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:07,360
in the mojave desert tomorrow night's

647
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:09,120
another fader night with open lines all

648
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:10,240
night long

649
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:11,760
army knows jimmy church you can follow

650
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:13,840
me on twitter at jchurchradio i know you

651
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,039
have twitter

652
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,360
uh it's it's here but it's buried now i

653
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:19,200
don't have the multiple yeah it's mad

654
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,000
but you know what i'm not freaking out

655
00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:24,559
i can click through screens

656
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,919
man

657
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this is fade to black and the game

658
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changer network and kg are a the planet

659
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i'll be right back with anjali right

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747
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is not your father's radio show

748
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:53,640
on the game changer radio network and

749
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kgra

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the planet

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this is rob reiner from anvil and you're

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what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

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matthews

754
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,710
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

755
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:30,720
your host jimmy church

756
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,560
tonight anjali is here for the first

757
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,720
time and we are going to discuss her

758
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,000
plans

759
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,400
to return to an et base located

760
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,480
somewhere in the mojave desert

761
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,240
that's part of the story we're going to

762
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:44,000
get to all of it tonight i'm very

763
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excited about this and

764
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:47,680
want to remind everybody tomorrow night

765
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,480
it is thursday which means it's fader

766
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night open lines

767
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all night long but tonight it's all

768
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,640
about anjali

769
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:58,560
that's right she joins us for the first

770
00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:00,160
time we're going to discuss

771
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:01,760
her recent press conference at the

772
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:04,720
lincoln memorial in washington d.c

773
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:06,480
to announce the formation of an

774
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:08,160
international team of scientists who

775
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:10,640
will enter an extraterrestrial base in

776
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:13,359
the mojave desert formerly assigned to

777
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,520
the pentagon it was anjali's position

778
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:17,280
supporting the u.s marine corps

779
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:19,760
intelligence efforts for deploying

780
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:21,680
executives that first brought her to

781
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:24,640
southern california back in 2015.

782
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:26,880
now she will head the diverse team and

783
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:29,920
return back to that base i just referred

784
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:33,920
to before the end of 2021. she served in

785
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,040
the united states air force uh sac acc

786
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:39,680
from 1992 to 1995

787
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,320
lead intelligence officer informations

788
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:44,640
now listen i don't understand any of

789
00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:47,200
this so i'm just going to lay it out

790
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:50,240
there information operations information

791
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:54,480
warfare ioiw from 2004-2005

792
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:56,960
team lead human factors leadership for

793
00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:00,079
the dia director interagency country

794
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:03,280
review project in 2005

795
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:05,839
defense intelligence agency intelligence

796
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:08,720
liaison officer executive support office

797
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:12,960
j2j3 pentagon 2005-2006

798
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,160
bae systems lead intelligence analyst

799
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:18,480
for the defense intelligence agency from

800
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:21,520
2006 to 2009

801
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,760
caught my government services social

802
00:38:27,710 --> 00:38:25,760
media and open source intelligence

803
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:27,720
instructor

804
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:30,480
2015-2016 at the marine corps air ground

805
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:33,760
combat center 29 palms california

806
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:36,320
human factors intelligence consultant

807
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:40,079
from 2017 to 2021

808
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:41,760
i'm out of breath and i would like to

809
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:43,440
welcome for the first time defeated

810
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,920
black anjali anjali good evening how are

811
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:47,760
you

812
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:54,960
that's that's a that's a long list of

813
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:57,359
stuff but we'll get to all of that uh

814
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,560
first things first uh you get the first

815
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:03,119
time guest disclaimer next time you're

816
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:04,320
on the show you're not going to get it

817
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:05,839
but you get it tonight

818
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:08,160
which is this it's just you and i

819
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:10,880
sitting on my couch or your couch in in

820
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:11,920
this case

821
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,640
uh having a conversation and where that

822
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:16,480
conversation starts and starts where it

823
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:17,920
ends it ends but we're gonna end his

824
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:19,839
friends there you go

825
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:21,040
all right

826
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:24,000
it pressure's off

827
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:26,640
okay now um

828
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:30,880
uh there is so many directions to go

829
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:33,680
into tonight and i can start almost at

830
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,200
any point

831
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,960
but uh

832
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:38,240
for me

833
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:41,520
i'm actually going to start in this

834
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:43,280
direction and i have a feeling we're

835
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:44,480
going to go

836
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:49,680
forwards in time

837
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:53,200
but i am i i want to start here

838
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,839
with your

839
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:56,400
uh

840
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:57,839
career

841
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,160
in intelligence and some of it was based

842
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:02,079
at the pentagon right

843
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:03,760
um

844
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:08,240
in that part of your life was there

845
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:14,720
anything to do with ets or ufos or uaps

846
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:18,480
absolutely not not in any way shape or

847
00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:19,599
form

848
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,319
no okay and uh which is uh more or less

849
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:26,960
what i expected because now i want to go

850
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:29,200
further back in time

851
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:32,880
um growing up did you have

852
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:36,960
um any et experiences or contact or see

853
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:44,390
yes absolutely

854
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:48,079
some of which i have actually

855
00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:50,640
recalled more detail of it now that i

856
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:52,079
went under a hypno regression with

857
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:53,520
barbara lamb

858
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,960
but there was always something from um i

859
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:58,800
always thought i was between three and

860
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:01,119
four my mom said that i was four years

861
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:04,240
old a sighting that we had that then i

862
00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:08,480
went under hypnosis um with barbara

863
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,839
after i had begun to have memories of

864
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:14,400
experiences from childhood and i was

865
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:15,520
questioning

866
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,359
uh the validity of them of course

867
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:21,440
and

868
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,480
so

869
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:25,680
after the hypno regression i had a more

870
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,359
complete memory a complete recall

871
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:31,119
i should say more complete because i do

872
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:33,359
not believe that i i have a complete

873
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:36,160
recall of it but a more complete recall

874
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,640
and um

875
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,079
and

876
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:42,079
all of that predates

877
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:45,680
you know the age of puberty so

878
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:48,800
and actually it's we could get into a

879
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:50,720
sighting um that i can actually for the

880
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:53,200
first time thanks to

881
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,040
someone that i met on twitter um who has

882
00:42:02,630 --> 00:41:59,280
become a dear friend of mine has been

883
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,640
mining um sightings in the town where i

884
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:05,119
grew up in jacksonville florida um and

885
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:07,599
had has discovered

886
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,359
a sighting um when i was four years old

887
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:13,760
that is exactly as i have described like

888
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:17,200
the the ship that i describe the craft

889
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:19,920
um is exactly what is described in this

890
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:22,319
sighting that someone else made has

891
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,200
nothing to do with me and it was over

892
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:27,599
jacksonville florida where i

893
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,400
was in contact with

894
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:33,359
these beings and taken into their craft

895
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,960
now uh before we move forward and i want

896
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,560
everybody to understand that we went

897
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:41,599
through a crazy sound check for 25

898
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,280
minutes um uh and so can i ask you

899
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,040
anjali to bring

900
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:49,760
the laptop closer to you so the

901
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,040
microphone is closer to you

902
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:55,680
certainly absolutely

903
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:58,880
i see it already sounds better okay does

904
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:00,640
it yeah and

905
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,880
now i want you to tell everybody

906
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:05,200
that through that sound check that i did

907
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:09,280
not freak out once did i

908
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:13,200
jimmy was a a pillar of

909
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:16,640
silence and self-control and it was me

910
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,470
it was it was so funny and

911
00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:24,880
and all i could say was

912
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:26,350
i'm not freaking out

913
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,440
[Laughter]

914
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:29,280
it's all okay

915
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:30,240
and

916
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,560
showtime is in five minutes

917
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,560
and i'm still not freaking out and then

918
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:37,359
my computer went went blank at that

919
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:39,520
moment that was it was pretty wild but

920
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,200
anyway

921
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:43,440
all kinds of fun things yeah i maintain

922
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:47,200
composure and so anyway okay now

923
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:48,640
let's go back

924
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,599
uh to barbara lamb is wonderful by the

925
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:53,680
way she is a great person

926
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,200
and a beautiful uh inside and out beyond

927
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,520
words i have a lot of respect for

928
00:44:01,829 --> 00:44:01,040
barbara

929
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:01,839
but

930
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,079
when you go through regression

931
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:06,480
something that may be there i'm not a

932
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:08,960
professional i just play one on radio

933
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,359
but uh you know some of those memories

934
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:12,960
may be there

935
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:15,440
um and you don't know

936
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:17,599
what they are or could be a dream or

937
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:20,720
whatever but once they start to come out

938
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,400
then they're there right and so when you

939
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,440
go back did your mom at the age of four

940
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:30,000
was your mom having contact experiences

941
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:37,190
well she did have contact experience um

942
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,119
my earliest memory of contact

943
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,319
i was four years old and the story as i

944
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:46,400
have told it for years and years and

945
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,760
years because it was the only thing that

946
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,280
i had remembered

947
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,640
is that um i

948
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:54,560
i ran

949
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:57,359
up into the living room at night

950
00:45:01,990 --> 00:44:59,920
um and jumped up on the couch and i was

951
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:02,000
looking out the window the front window

952
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:03,839
of the living room there was some some

953
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,359
shrubs that were there

954
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:07,440
and

955
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:20,400
particularly looking up over the house

956
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,079
and they were all just standing there

957
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,800
and i i wasn't afraid i knew what was

958
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:25,920
going on

959
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,200
um i

960
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:29,520
uh it's just that's all that i

961
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:30,720
remembered

962
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,680
um

963
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:32,880
until

964
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:35,440
i came out with my story

965
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:38,880
of my experience and exposed myself

966
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:39,920
um

967
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,800
to a great a great deal of

968
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:45,200
introspection you know through the lens

969
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:47,520
of of everyone else that i was

970
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:51,359
interacting with online um each time

971
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:53,920
that i would get a

972
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:56,000
very skeptical question i would have to

973
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:57,920
stop and reconsider even if i answered

974
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,440
it four or five times

975
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:01,440
reconsider stop

976
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:02,720
make sure

977
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:03,760
that

978
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:12,710
the right

979
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,880
i would need to

980
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:18,079
to

981
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,440
i don't know if you understand what i'm

982
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:21,599
trying to say here

983
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:24,480
i was i was concerned

984
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,160
that

985
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:28,960
if i only regurgitated the same answer

986
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:31,359
over and over copying comments here and

987
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:32,400
there

988
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:33,839
that

989
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,599
it would not seem like i was doing any

990
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,520
kind of sincere effort

991
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:39,119
to consider

992
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,720
the skepticism

993
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,880
and the questions that were being asked

994
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:44,560
you know the how do you know this and

995
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:46,400
the why is that

996
00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:49,280
each time to stop and reconsider and

997
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,200
reconsider why

998
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:53,359
i felt like i had the answer to that

999
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,599
question um

1000
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:57,520
and so there was a lot of introspection

1001
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,880
that was going on um and i disconnected

1002
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:02,640
for a while and

1003
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:03,760
did

1004
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:06,160
so much meditation

1005
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:07,760
in every day

1006
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:11,440
that the conscious contact began to pick

1007
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:13,040
up in my life

1008
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:16,079
and i um

1009
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:17,599
i had

1010
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,359
a flood in of memory of being

1011
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,119
very young around the age of three or

1012
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,960
four and i was

1013
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,040
in the craft um

1014
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:28,880
and how this occurred

1015
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,280
do you want me to yes yes

1016
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:33,760
yes stay stay in your thoughts stay stay

1017
00:47:37,270 --> 00:47:35,680
right there

1018
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:37,280
okay so

1019
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:39,760
um i was i was doing a meditation and in

1020
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,040
my in when i meditate i always place

1021
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:45,599
myself on a beach

1022
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,200
uh i like the the sound of the waves

1023
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:51,359
coming in and out and so i that becomes

1024
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:54,800
like the rhythm of my breath and

1025
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,280
and like the pulse that i'm looking for

1026
00:48:01,990 --> 00:47:59,359
internally um

1027
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:02,000
and so i like to stand on a beach and if

1028
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:03,680
anything

1029
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:10,720
or i have intruding thoughts that contin

1030
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:12,960
continue to interrupt

1031
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:14,960
my meditation if it's you know something

1032
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:16,640
i need from the grocery list or a

1033
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:19,599
conversation or a comment whatever it is

1034
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:21,119
i have a

1035
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:22,079
um

1036
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:23,839
i have a

1037
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,559
a box a black box

1038
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,720
that i put on the beach

1039
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,200
and i will turn around

1040
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:33,839
and put whatever it is in the box you

1041
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:35,359
know and close the lid and then put my

1042
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,000
back to it and go back to you know

1043
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,920
looking at the ocean and me and go back

1044
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:42,480
into the meditation so um so of course

1045
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,880
this is a mental process of really going

1046
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:47,280
to another place and

1047
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:50,160
this one particular day i was having a

1048
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,240
very difficult time

1049
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:54,559
not staying focused um

1050
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:55,760
and

1051
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,319
i wondered what would happen

1052
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,400
if i put myself in the box

1053
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:02,559
instead of the thing that was bothering

1054
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:03,599
me

1055
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:04,800
um

1056
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:06,000
what could

1057
00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:08,000
how could that turn out

1058
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:09,359
and so

1059
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,640
i

1060
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:11,839
turned around

1061
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:13,440
i'm standing on the beach mind you i

1062
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,960
turned around i opened the box um the

1063
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:19,040
bottom of it is just you know it's just

1064
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:21,280
a flat like rectangular box

1065
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:22,240
um

1066
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:25,680
i got into the box and i closed the lid

1067
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:28,559
and i stayed there

1068
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:32,160
in that in that in that box meditating

1069
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:35,920
until i didn't hear the waves anymore

1070
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:38,960
to try to completely put myself inside

1071
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:40,559
that box

1072
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:44,240
and once i stopped hearing the waves i i

1073
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:46,559
got out of the box or i opened the box

1074
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:49,119
and it was very dark and i stepped out

1075
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,520
of it and i did exactly what i would do

1076
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:53,599
on the beach which is i turned back to

1077
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:55,200
it to close it

1078
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,800
and what i saw

1079
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:58,880
was earth

1080
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:01,359
there was no bottom to the box

1081
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:04,079
and so i realized that i had put myself

1082
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:07,839
i i i had put myself somewhere and i

1083
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:10,960
closed the box and i turned around

1084
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:13,040
and there were

1085
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:14,400
children

1086
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:16,559
standing there

1087
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,440
and the entire memory of

1088
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:21,280
i shouldn't say the entire because i

1089
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:22,400
don't know

1090
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:23,520
um

1091
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:26,480
but a flood of memory of being in that

1092
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:28,480
craft when it came and was over our

1093
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:29,760
house

1094
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,640
came back to me and that is why i went

1095
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:34,640
to barbara lamb because i just needed to

1096
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,559
know there were so many other things

1097
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:37,920
that were

1098
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:40,319
that had been nagging me over the years

1099
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:43,680
that i just needed to know

1100
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,720
when i meditate i go to a taco truck but

1101
00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:48,319
that's a that's a

1102
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:52,839
whole nother show

1103
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,839
um tacos i swear that's what max and i

1104
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,400
ate most of the time across across the

1105
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,640
country every time we could we found a

1106
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:02,480
taco truck we hit so

1107
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:03,680
i feel it

1108
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:06,400
it's god's gift to this planet earth uh

1109
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:09,280
taco trucks now um

1110
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:10,720
uh

1111
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,520
now i i want to jump forward because

1112
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:15,599
that's that's now but i want to jump

1113
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,240
forward from the age of four

1114
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:20,640
and as you go through your professional

1115
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:25,440
career um any interest in in ufos or the

1116
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:27,680
i ask if anything came up professionally

1117
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:30,079
at the pentagon or

1118
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:32,079
or you know the air force but

1119
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,200
but did you have any contact or any

1120
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:37,359
interest privately

1121
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:38,160
uh

1122
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:41,750
um

1123
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:44,400
[Music]

1124
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,040
i will admit to searching

1125
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:49,680
once in jaywix to see

1126
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:52,240
it which is a classified database of

1127
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:54,960
intel yes it is

1128
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,400
you jump

1129
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:58,319
what's your search word

1130
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:01,119
what are you looking for you ufo little

1131
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,040
green dudes i did i did just about

1132
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:07,119
everything you could think of um if it

1133
00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:10,000
was even remotely related to it and and

1134
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:11,839
it was outside of

1135
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,119
of my um my need to know and there just

1136
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:17,599
there weren't any keywords that matched

1137
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,079
up my need to know and i just didn't get

1138
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,680
any search results

1139
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:23,440
did so and i felt

1140
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,559
i felt particularly um

1141
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,480
vulnerable at that moment it kind of

1142
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:31,440
dawned on me um yeah

1143
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:34,079
that wasn't a good idea yeah yeah not a

1144
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:37,920
good idea and well i have to ask did did

1145
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:40,960
did any flags show up into the system

1146
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:44,480
did you get a visit from somebody

1147
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,520
i had no uh not not that i am aware of i

1148
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:49,280
mean nobody uh

1149
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:52,000
ever approached me about it and no i

1150
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:54,800
didn't it wasn't i'm sure

1151
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:58,079
that most analysts do that i can't

1152
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:00,559
imagine it's very hard when you're

1153
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:03,839
curious not to you know not to want to

1154
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:06,480
try at least so i'm sure they're used to

1155
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:08,720
it as i'm trying to say

1156
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:09,839
now uh

1157
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:13,040
this is a personal question uh for me um

1158
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:14,559
as you know

1159
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:17,280
um i know lou elizondo really well spoke

1160
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:20,720
to him 15 times today about other stuff

1161
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,240
um

1162
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:24,319
yeah we talked about coffee we talked

1163
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:27,040
about jeeps we talked about everything

1164
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:29,839
but ufos so there you go everybody i

1165
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:31,760
hate to bum you out but

1166
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:33,040
but um

1167
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:34,960
uh

1168
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,079
did you you know who he is today

1169
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:40,640
did you the pentagon is a big place but

1170
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,640
did you ever bump into him did you ever

1171
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:44,880
see him did you know who he was

1172
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:47,119
when you see his face today do you

1173
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:50,319
recall oh i saw him in the hallway any

1174
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:58,069
i don't remember ever bumping into lou

1175
00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:59,200
when he

1176
00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:01,280
first came forward you can imagine that

1177
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:02,160
i was

1178
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:07,200
look familiar to me his name wasn't

1179
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,079
familiar to me nor was his department

1180
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:12,240
okay um

1181
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:14,000
i was actually

1182
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:16,480
credibly skeptical

1183
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:18,960
of lou um i

1184
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:22,079
you know immediately my fear alarm went

1185
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:24,319
wanted to go to oh this is

1186
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:26,720
disinformation you know this is a this

1187
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:28,960
is an information operations

1188
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,559
directed at the american people this

1189
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,640
isn't a violation of exec executive

1190
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:34,720
orders i mean i was like my mind was

1191
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:37,680
going to all these places um

1192
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:40,640
because i was just very uh afraid i

1193
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:41,680
think

1194
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:43,040
so

1195
00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:45,040
one other thing for me and it has

1196
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:46,799
nothing to do with lou

1197
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,880
it has to do with your forearm i'm not

1198
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,319
gonna say anything

1199
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:52,640
just let me see

1200
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:58,950
that's totally awesome it says with our

1201
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:00,160
thoughts

1202
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:03,599
that is

1203
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:06,000
an original script actually i made i

1204
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:09,280
designed that that is totally freaking

1205
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:11,599
badass okay all right

1206
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:13,680
i never use bad words on the air i

1207
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:15,440
apologize to all the kids out there that

1208
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:18,880
are listening but that's crazy cool okay

1209
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:22,799
um not that i've been distracted so now

1210
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:25,359
i know so now we can okay

1211
00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:26,240
did you

1212
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:28,240
i also have one here but it will be very

1213
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:29,599
difficult for you to see it you know

1214
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:31,040
what i'll just send you a picture yeah

1215
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:32,880
yeah

1216
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:35,359
it's a white tattoo so

1217
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:37,040
really okay this is boring for the

1218
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:39,040
audience but this is really cool for us

1219
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:41,280
um at this moment okay

1220
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,240
now let's get to the meat of the matter

1221
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:46,319
because this is going to

1222
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:48,559
uh we cleared up some of that i would

1223
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:50,720
like to get back to

1224
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,640
the dia and the pentagon and some of

1225
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:54,160
that stuff we'll do that later on in the

1226
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:55,760
show if we have time we can do that

1227
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:58,799
later on another show at another time

1228
00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:01,040
too as well if we run out of time

1229
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:04,079
um now uh this is going to set up what

1230
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:05,520
we're going to do for the next segment

1231
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:07,119
we have about five minutes before the

1232
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:08,079
break

1233
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:09,520
okay

1234
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:11,359
i only have

1235
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:12,319
uh

1236
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:15,520
the basic details here from what you

1237
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,480
have uh i've read some stuff online of

1238
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,240
course from you

1239
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:23,040
um in twitter but uh your press

1240
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:25,200
conference in front of

1241
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:25,920
the

1242
00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:35,680
and and i got to catch some of that too

1243
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:36,880
as well

1244
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:37,839
but

1245
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:40,720
i'm here for details this is for me okay

1246
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:43,359
so now let's sit down and talk

1247
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:48,079
um with all of the start of this

1248
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:49,920
going back to

1249
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:52,559
apparently and if i'm wrong you're here

1250
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:53,920
to help me

1251
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,040
you know get straight this happened at a

1252
00:57:02,630 --> 00:56:59,200
the original kickoff was at a coffee

1253
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:02,640
shop or or over breakfast

1254
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:05,359
right it was at a coffee shop okay okay

1255
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:08,319
all right which is cool

1256
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:11,119
okay so let's is

1257
00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:13,200
let's start there

1258
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:15,839
so you go to the coffee shop is this in

1259
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:23,030
we i think it was

1260
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:26,160
around 10 10 30 okay in the morning

1261
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,280
just on a sunday okay just for context

1262
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:31,280
10 o'clock in the morning

1263
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:32,240
uh

1264
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:34,720
sunday you walk into a coffee shop

1265
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:37,119
expecting coffee and breakfast

1266
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,240
right that's what's on your mind

1267
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:42,720
what is on my mind is coffee and good

1268
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:44,640
conversation with a friend of mine who's

1269
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:47,040
with me okay

1270
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:49,359
i'm handing it off to you what happened

1271
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:54,549
okay um

1272
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:56,799
well uh i was there with a friend of

1273
00:58:02,069 --> 00:57:59,839
mine named nick and we were

1274
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,079
having coffee um

1275
00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:04,079
we were near the coast in southern

1276
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:09,349
and um

1277
00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:10,960
we

1278
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:14,079
had been oh it was probably about

1279
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:15,920
noon at that point we'd been sitting

1280
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:18,480
there for approximately two hours and

1281
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:21,119
and he needed to get back um

1282
00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:24,640
to his fiancee and

1283
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:27,200
uh we were just kind of rolling up our

1284
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:28,640
conversation

1285
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,960
and another couple had happened to come

1286
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:32,960
in and sat with us

1287
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,119
or sat near us we were sitting in an

1288
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:37,680
area that had a couple of couches and a

1289
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:40,079
couple of recliners and

1290
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:41,200
you know

1291
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:42,880
i actually i don't know where you're

1292
00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:46,079
located jimmy but i am i hope it's in

1293
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:48,079
california and that you go to great

1294
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:49,680
coffee shops where people do this

1295
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:50,400
because

1296
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:52,640
it's amazing the conversation that you

1297
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:54,400
can have if you're just willing to meet

1298
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:56,799
people where they are you know yes and

1299
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:58,480
that's how they are

1300
00:59:01,510 --> 00:59:00,799
i i'm in los angeles

1301
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:01,520
so

1302
00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:06,000
all right on the far side of la county

1303
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:11,119
okay okay all right okay so um

1304
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,319
so

1305
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,720
the couple came in and you know they sat

1306
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:16,880
near us and uh

1307
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:18,880
were very friendly they made it clear

1308
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:21,440
right away that they wanted to have a

1309
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,640
conversation with us um and and i was

1310
00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:26,640
okay with that because i knew my friend

1311
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:29,839
nick was leaving um and i wasn't quite

1312
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:32,240
ready to leave you know i thought it

1313
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,839
would be nice to hang out at the coffee

1314
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:36,160
shop for a little while more

1315
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:37,200
and

1316
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,760
so we struck up a conversation

1317
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:40,880
um

1318
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:46,150
at some point my friend nick had to head

1319
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:47,040
back

1320
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,319
and

1321
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,000
so he went

1322
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:52,799
i walked him out and i came back and and

1323
00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:54,880
sat down and they had moved like down

1324
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:58,559
closer to the end of the couch and um

1325
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:00,720
and they

1326
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:03,520
he just asked um after

1327
01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:05,280
a long conversation about our health

1328
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:06,799
both of us had had conversation about

1329
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:09,119
our health with each other um and that's

1330
01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:12,880
when he had divulged that uh that he was

1331
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:16,480
suffering from cancer and um was

1332
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:19,040
trying everything that he could uh to

1333
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:20,400
move himself

1334
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:24,400
down in stages and of

1335
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:26,640
a disease that people typically don't

1336
01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:28,480
live with um

1337
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:30,079
and he was

1338
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:33,040
meditating and and um

1339
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:34,160
pursuing

1340
01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:36,400
other ways of

1341
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:39,119
of healing him that we never really got

1342
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:43,119
into at that point um and

1343
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:46,160
so he had gone down in his stage of

1344
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:49,040
cancer um after a lot of treatment

1345
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:50,720
hadn't been working

1346
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:53,920
um and so he really wanted to talk to me

1347
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:56,400
about my health you know he was very

1348
01:01:02,230 --> 01:00:58,559
concerned for me

1349
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:04,150
so

1350
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:08,880
you think of aliens and

1351
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:10,960
i said well what do i think about aliens

1352
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,880
you know i freaking love him

1353
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:14,640
and he said well

1354
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:18,000
would you would you like to meet some

1355
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:20,480
and um

1356
01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:23,760
i was fresh off of

1357
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:26,160
my first

1358
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:28,079
conscious

1359
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:32,880
actually was having

1360
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:37,040
communication with a being that i wasn't

1361
01:01:41,829 --> 01:01:39,680
able to understand i was aware that this

1362
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:41,839
communication was happening and i was

1363
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:43,920
concerned i

1364
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:45,839
they you know were telling me that they

1365
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:48,240
were a higher being um or you know that

1366
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:50,640
they weren't human um that they

1367
01:01:55,510 --> 01:01:53,760
were um

1368
01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:55,520
you know that they were here to help

1369
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:58,319
humanity and giving advice

1370
01:02:02,069 --> 01:01:59,839
and um

1371
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:02,079
okay let me let me let me jump in right

1372
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:03,920
there we have to take a break that's a

1373
01:02:07,270 --> 01:02:05,440
perfect spot

1374
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:07,280
uh to do that so let's get this in this

1375
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:09,440
is fade to black i'm yours jimmy church

1376
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:11,760
tonight anjali is here for the first

1377
01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:13,920
time we are discussing well

1378
01:02:19,029 --> 01:02:17,520
we're discussing the whole story and

1379
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:19,039
there's an e.t base somewhere in the

1380
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:22,000
mojave deserts and she's going to return

1381
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:23,760
there which means

1382
01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,440
she was there once before we're going to

1383
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:27,359
get to all of that right after this

1384
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:29,440
short break our meals jimmy church this

1385
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:30,960
is fade to black and the game changer

1386
01:02:42,570 --> 01:02:40,040
[Music]

1387
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:42,580
[Applause]

1388
01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:48,720
[Music]

1389
01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:50,880
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1390
01:02:58,230 --> 01:02:53,520
on the game changer radio network and

1391
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:58,240
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1392
01:03:01,750 --> 01:03:00,720
this is kgra digital broadcasting

1393
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:01,760
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1394
01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:05,280
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1395
01:03:09,029 --> 01:03:07,200
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1396
01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:09,039
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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:00,559
host jimmy church tonight anjali joins

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us for the first time right here on fade

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to black

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01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:05,520
she just had a recent press conference

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in front of the lincoln memorial that

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was live in washington dc travel back

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across the united states

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01:08:17,110 --> 01:08:14,960
she's back and with this first thing uh

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01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,120
tonight uh here on fade to black it's a

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01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:19,199
very interesting story

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01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:22,080
and uh just a quick recap where we left

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01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:24,960
off before the break was in the coffee

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01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:26,000
shop

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01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:29,199
where uh the conversation which is a few

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01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:30,560
hours long

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01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:31,440
uh

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01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:33,520
goes straight into

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you want to meet you want to meet some

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01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:36,480
aliens

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01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:39,839
now uh i have a quick question at this

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01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,960
point

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01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:42,480
is this

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01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:48,149
yes this is wayne and wayne at this

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01:08:54,149 --> 01:08:50,239
point he's only been with us

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01:08:55,749 --> 01:08:54,159
uh for about an hour um

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01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:55,759
nick and i had been there for a couple

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01:08:59,189 --> 01:08:56,960
of hours

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01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:59,199
when they came in and he was on his way

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01:09:02,149 --> 01:09:00,000
out

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01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:02,159
um but the conversation was so

1520
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:04,640
interesting that he you know we all just

1521
01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:06,480
got caught up in it for a while

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01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:09,759
uh and he ended up overstaying actually

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01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:12,560
um and so it was it was probably about

1524
01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:14,960
an hour into the conversation

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01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:17,679
that that nick left and

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01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:20,000
it was just myself and wayne and trisha

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01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:21,679
and that's when he just came right out

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01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:24,719
with this question now uh when was this

1529
01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:27,120
were in august uh

1530
01:09:32,149 --> 01:09:29,199
august of 2021 when did this

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01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:32,159
conversation take place

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01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:34,960
this was january 21st

1533
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:38,480
of 2018 and that was a sunday gotcha

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01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:41,520
okay so three three and a half years ago

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01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:45,199
okay so um and i want you to continue

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01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:47,440
with the story but just a couple of uh

1537
01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:48,719
story

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01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:50,560
the encounter i should say

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01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:53,520
um uh but uh a couple of other questions

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01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:55,600
was there anything

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01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:57,600
about wayne

1542
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:00,320
that was you know that would put you

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01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:11,430
remember we're we're live on the radio

1544
01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:13,920
dramatic pauses

1545
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:17,679
sorry that's okay i get to stop and i'm

1546
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:19,679
trying to give you the consideration

1547
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:22,159
that you deserve it's a good question

1548
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:24,320
yes no one has asked me that

1549
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:25,600
but yes you're correct i'm sorry i

1550
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:29,440
forgot uh well you know i

1551
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:32,880
i was very comfortable with him

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01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:35,840
um if if anything

1553
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:37,600
i found him

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01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:40,159
compelling interesting um

1555
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:43,679
uh his his wife trisha was she was just

1556
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:46,080
quieter you know and she would engage

1557
01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:48,640
but he was definitely you the one

1558
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:51,520
leaning forward with everything

1559
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:52,320
and

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01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:58,870
oh um

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01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:01,199
i don't know i think we might be around

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01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:03,199
the same age he's probably

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01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:05,120
in his you know

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01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:08,080
mid 40s to early 50s i honestly i don't

1565
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:10,480
know remember i'm just trying to create

1566
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:12,400
the theater of the mind

1567
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:15,199
so we're in a coffee shop we've got soft

1568
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:17,120
comfortable chairs

1569
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,679
drinking uh the caffeine engaged in

1570
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:21,840
conversation my favorite thing to do in

1571
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:23,760
the world and then of course to talk

1572
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:25,760
about aliens right let's throw that in

1573
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:26,960
the mix

1574
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:30,080
this is uh this is pretty cool okay

1575
01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:30,960
so

1576
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:34,159
what was your response

1577
01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:36,719
um yes of course

1578
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,640
i i wanted details um i said well

1579
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:42,480
of course i do but you know what are you

1580
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:44,960
talking about here and and so he went

1581
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:46,560
into um

1582
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:48,560
an experience where

1583
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:51,280
he he said that he had been seeing

1584
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:52,239
um

1585
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:55,120
well first of all he he owns some

1586
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:59,040
property um out in the mojave desert uh

1587
01:12:04,149 --> 01:12:01,280
that includes

1588
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:04,159
it's in one of the mountain ranges and

1589
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:05,440
so it

1590
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:06,640
he

1591
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:09,760
owns um a mountain um

1592
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:12,320
and he said this is how we put it the

1593
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:14,640
reason i'm explaining this is he put it

1594
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:18,000
this way he said i was seeing a lot of

1595
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,199
ufos over my mountain

1596
01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:23,600
and and i said well what do you mean

1597
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:25,520
your mountain and he said well you know

1598
01:12:30,149 --> 01:12:27,360
i own this mountain and i've been so

1599
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:30,159
i've been watching and um

1600
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:32,960
so he said that one night he went

1601
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:36,400
up to the top um and that because he

1602
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:37,920
thought that he had seen like a craft

1603
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:40,159
and a light and so he went up there and

1604
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:42,000
he said that he encountered

1605
01:12:45,910 --> 01:12:44,000
um what he said

1606
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:45,920
were aliens

1607
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:46,880
um

1608
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:49,120
and

1609
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:51,040
that they told him that

1610
01:12:55,990 --> 01:12:52,960
they had a base

1611
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:56,000
inside of his mountain

1612
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:57,280
um

1613
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:58,320
and

1614
01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:00,719
that was the extent of

1615
01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:03,920
of the information that he gave me on it

1616
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:06,320
he said he didn't remember very much but

1617
01:13:10,310 --> 01:13:08,480
that he became obsessed with digging

1618
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:10,320
into the mountain

1619
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:11,760
and so

1620
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:14,239
wayne um owns

1621
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,640
a construction company

1622
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:18,640
and um

1623
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:20,400
he

1624
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:21,760
excavates

1625
01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:24,719
rocks and foundations um

1626
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:26,000
in

1627
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:28,080
the mojave

1628
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:29,520
so he has

1629
01:13:34,149 --> 01:13:31,760
not only the professional

1630
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:34,159
expertise but also access to the

1631
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:35,520
equipment

1632
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:37,600
that he needed um to be able to

1633
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:39,600
accomplish this and so

1634
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:41,040
he um

1635
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:42,719
he said that he

1636
01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:46,400
he dug a hole a tunnel

1637
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:47,760
into the mountain

1638
01:13:52,149 --> 01:13:50,560
and that um

1639
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:52,159
he

1640
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:55,679
going

1641
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:57,360
he made like a what he said was that he

1642
01:14:00,709 --> 01:13:59,280
made like a right hand turn he decided

1643
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:00,719
to make a right-hander instead of

1644
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:03,280
continuing to burrow straight in like he

1645
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:04,960
had been doing the direction that he was

1646
01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:07,280
and so um

1647
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:09,679
and so when he did that

1648
01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:13,360
uh he said that he burrowed into their

1649
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:14,960
base and he

1650
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:17,040
met the beings and that he could take me

1651
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:19,199
to meet them

1652
01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:22,960
okay that's that is he told me now um at

1653
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:25,679
this point uh

1654
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:29,280
does crazy town enter your thought

1655
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:31,120
pattern right

1656
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:33,440
i mean that's a pretty incredible story

1657
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:36,159
and and you're a very smart person with

1658
01:14:40,149 --> 01:14:37,840
a very

1659
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:40,159
uh professional career behind you and

1660
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:42,640
you hear something like this

1661
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:44,960
right

1662
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:46,400
yes yes

1663
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:49,040
um what yes okay so that's a really

1664
01:14:53,470 --> 01:14:51,040
complex question and

1665
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:53,480
so let me answer that

1666
01:14:58,149 --> 01:14:56,159
complexly um

1667
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:58,159
i had

1668
01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:59,280
had

1669
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:00,320
three

1670
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:03,040
conscious contact experiences

1671
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:05,199
in just a few weeks

1672
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:06,480
before

1673
01:15:12,149 --> 01:15:10,560
meeting wayne and trisha okay uh so i

1674
01:15:15,669 --> 01:15:12,159
was in a pretty

1675
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:15,679
vulnerable state like i had seen

1676
01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:19,120
these this being like i could see it and

1677
01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:22,320
i could i could describe it um where it

1678
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:23,920
was where it was standing what it

1679
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:25,440
appeared to me

1680
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,560
everything um and

1681
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:30,719
so

1682
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,159
this man

1683
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:34,400
who i was i was really connecting with

1684
01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:35,920
him

1685
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:38,560
telling me this very compelling story

1686
01:15:42,709 --> 01:15:41,440
on the back of my own experience i

1687
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:42,719
thought

1688
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:43,920
this

1689
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:47,040
could possibly actually be real

1690
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:48,960
and the only way

1691
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:52,080
you're ever going to know is if you go

1692
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:53,199
um

1693
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:54,800
and

1694
01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:57,760
i i didn't have any idea what i could be

1695
01:16:01,910 --> 01:15:59,920
getting into i only knew what i was

1696
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:01,920
hoping i was getting into

1697
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:02,880
and so

1698
01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:03,760
um

1699
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:07,199
because i'm not stupid i

1700
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:10,400
asked them um in advance

1701
01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:11,280
for

1702
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:12,239
their

1703
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:13,840
cell phone number

1704
01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:15,840
uh their full name you know they showed

1705
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:18,800
me their ids i got the

1706
01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:21,920
i got the um the address from them

1707
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:24,800
um i dropped a pin to my daughter i sent

1708
01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:27,040
all of that information i pinged their

1709
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:28,480
cell phones to make sure they really

1710
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:30,080
gave me you know what i was just doing

1711
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:31,440
everything i could

1712
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:33,520
and told them you know i've now sent

1713
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:36,239
this out to a few friends so you know if

1714
01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:37,840
they don't hear from me by tomorrow

1715
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:40,400
morning um which is kind of like the

1716
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:42,640
standard in the desert

1717
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:45,600
i i mean that um if you don't write yeah

1718
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:47,760
you understand jimmy is nodding his head

1719
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:50,400
okay and saying yes i understand like

1720
01:16:54,390 --> 01:16:52,719
you don't send people out right away

1721
01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:54,400
because sometimes people get carried

1722
01:16:58,870 --> 01:16:56,320
away in conversation and you could

1723
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:58,880
easily end up talking all night so and

1724
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:00,320
you don't want them calling the police

1725
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:03,760
on you um so but i did so i told her if

1726
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:07,040
you have not heard from me you know um

1727
01:17:11,270 --> 01:17:08,960
then you know this is where i am and

1728
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:11,280
i've also sent it to um sent the

1729
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:13,520
information to other friends of mine

1730
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,920
okay let me let me jump in let me jump

1731
01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:17,600
in

1732
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:23,600
these plans were made at that moment and

1733
01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:25,199
and it's go time

1734
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:28,480
you're going to go from the coffee shop

1735
01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:31,360
to an e.t base

1736
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:33,520
that's right that's what he's telling me

1737
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:35,520
okay that is exactly what they're

1738
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:37,760
they're both saying that to me

1739
01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:40,480
and i feel like i have nothing to lose

1740
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:42,400
um this is like this could be the

1741
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:44,800
absolute best moment of my life or an

1742
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:46,880
absolutely horrific moment and the big

1743
01:17:52,390 --> 01:17:50,080
test for me was give me all of your

1744
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:52,400
personal information right now and let

1745
01:17:56,470 --> 01:17:54,320
me send it to my daughter and my friends

1746
01:17:58,149 --> 01:17:56,480
plus let me drop a pin at your house and

1747
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:58,159
you know what i'm saying and they were

1748
01:18:00,310 --> 01:17:59,600
all in

1749
01:18:03,350 --> 01:18:00,320
so

1750
01:18:05,590 --> 01:18:03,360
these people are either you know they're

1751
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:05,600
professionals or

1752
01:18:09,669 --> 01:18:07,199
or they're telling me the truth

1753
01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:09,679
and um i was willing to risk

1754
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:14,080
the opposite so so who would it okay

1755
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:19,830
i

1756
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:33,840
you're a woman

1757
01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:36,560
with two people that you just met in uh

1758
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:38,000
you know obviously you have your

1759
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:39,360
background

1760
01:18:44,149 --> 01:18:40,960
and probably

1761
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:44,159
not very much shakes you right i'm

1762
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:45,760
assuming that

1763
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,080
yeah it's pretty hard to rattle yeah

1764
01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:50,880
exactly okay so

1765
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:54,239
you guys just get up and and and and

1766
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:57,360
leave is that what happens

1767
01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:00,719
well uh essentially but before then

1768
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:02,800
while we were having um

1769
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:04,320
while they were exchanging their

1770
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:06,000
information with me

1771
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:07,520
um

1772
01:19:17,669 --> 01:19:09,360
i

1773
01:19:19,030 --> 01:19:17,679
got off off the couch and started

1774
01:19:21,030 --> 01:19:19,040
talking to them and

1775
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:21,040
turns out that they were friends of

1776
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:22,480
wayne and trisha's

1777
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:24,239
and um

1778
01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:25,440
and they

1779
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:27,920
immediately you know wayne just says i

1780
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:30,960
mean just write out loud um

1781
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:32,880
yeah i'm gonna take her take her to the

1782
01:19:37,189 --> 01:19:35,440
aliens and he was like all right cool

1783
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:37,199
and he says you guys want to come along

1784
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:38,640
he's like yeah sure

1785
01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:42,400
i mean i'm telling you it was so

1786
01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:44,640
it was so

1787
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:47,920
like just normalized

1788
01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:50,719
that i i thought what this was like the

1789
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:52,000
first time

1790
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:54,239
that day that i thought what the

1791
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:56,080
heck is going on

1792
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:57,840
you know um

1793
01:20:02,630 --> 01:19:59,520
which actually became something that i

1794
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:02,640
said repeatedly throughout the day out

1795
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:05,600
just right out loud

1796
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:08,080
um yeah so

1797
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:11,360
the other part to this and i'll find out

1798
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:13,440
more not only as the night goes on but

1799
01:20:16,790 --> 01:20:15,760
the the days and weeks ahead

1800
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:16,800
why

1801
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:19,120
if i know wayne if he's been part of the

1802
01:20:24,629 --> 01:20:22,000
ufo community at any point if anybody

1803
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:24,639
who ufo community knows who he is and

1804
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:27,600
reputations but ufos over a mountain in

1805
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:30,000
the mojave is something that

1806
01:20:34,149 --> 01:20:31,040
uh

1807
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:34,159
should have been noted inside of the

1808
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:37,120
community so i've i've got my

1809
01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:41,600
my wheels turning okay so they they they

1810
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:43,679
introduce you to this other couple they

1811
01:20:47,590 --> 01:20:45,440
say cool

1812
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:47,600
wow wow this is this is all this is all

1813
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:52,080
pretty strange okay so what happens next

1814
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:55,280
okay um so

1815
01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:56,080
so

1816
01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:58,560
they say okay let's go

1817
01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:01,280
and the other couple had just arrived at

1818
01:21:04,709 --> 01:21:02,800
the coffee shop and so they said you

1819
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:04,719
know i you know whatever they were

1820
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:06,080
saying about i don't know getting a

1821
01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:08,800
drink or whatever um and but they said

1822
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:12,960
they would be right behind us um and

1823
01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:16,400
so i followed them um it was you know it

1824
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:18,560
was quite a drive um

1825
01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:19,920
and

1826
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:20,719
we

1827
01:21:34,709 --> 01:21:31,679
waited for their for their friends for i

1828
01:21:36,550 --> 01:21:34,719
don't know maybe half an hour or so i

1829
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:36,560
it doesn't really matter but

1830
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:37,920
during that time

1831
01:21:42,629 --> 01:21:39,520
we were just talking more about his

1832
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,639
relationship and his experiences

1833
01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:43,920
um

1834
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:44,800
with

1835
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:46,560
the

1836
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:49,040
beings that i know to be you know i that

1837
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:50,880
i refer to as higher beings that at that

1838
01:22:00,070 --> 01:21:54,800
time he was referring to as aliens um

1839
01:22:01,669 --> 01:22:00,080
and um he has he has a beautiful home um

1840
01:22:04,149 --> 01:22:01,679
and

1841
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:04,159
as you would expect

1842
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:05,120
and

1843
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,239
so he has like an arched way that cuts

1844
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:10,080
his home in half it like really

1845
01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:11,679
designates

1846
01:22:16,229 --> 01:22:13,920
one part of the house from the other

1847
01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:16,239
and we were standing in this kitchen

1848
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:18,960
area and he went and stood under it and

1849
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:20,639
like you know put his hand up and

1850
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:22,880
smacked the top of it and he said this

1851
01:22:27,189 --> 01:22:25,199
is where they put me when they're done

1852
01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:27,199
and i said what are you talking about

1853
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:29,440
and he said yeah after i after i've been

1854
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:32,000
talking to the aliens when i go see him

1855
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:34,560
this is where they teleport me back

1856
01:22:40,709 --> 01:22:36,719
and

1857
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,719
i was just awestruck i didn't even

1858
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:42,320
know what to say

1859
01:22:47,189 --> 01:22:43,360
um

1860
01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:47,199
he was so sincere and so just

1861
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:49,120
forthright about it

1862
01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:51,360
that again i was just thinking this is

1863
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:54,320
the greatest day of my life or the worst

1864
01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:55,120
um

1865
01:22:59,350 --> 01:22:57,199
that was going into that tunnel no

1866
01:23:04,149 --> 01:22:59,360
matter what

1867
01:23:05,189 --> 01:23:04,159
and uh do and so the friends do show up

1868
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:05,199
yes

1869
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:08,080
and so we took uh

1870
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:11,199
i was gonna say did the friends did the

1871
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:12,800
uh i'm trying to think it's one two

1872
01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:15,280
three four five did the five of you all

1873
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:17,600
go together

1874
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:19,440
yes we did yes

1875
01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:20,560
um

1876
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:23,040
the most of the walk uh it was quite a

1877
01:23:27,189 --> 01:23:24,639
jaunt um

1878
01:23:29,590 --> 01:23:27,199
it was far enough that i was concerned

1879
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:29,600
about whether or not i was going to be

1880
01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:31,440
able to make it i was i was actually

1881
01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:34,400
really struggling to make it um

1882
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,679
and

1883
01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:36,719
uh

1884
01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:38,400
it

1885
01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:41,840
i you know i don't know how long we

1886
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:45,120
walked um because my focus was on trying

1887
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:46,080
to

1888
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,400
um you know on my feet really because i

1889
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:52,320
was feeling very weak

1890
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:55,120
and um what was propelling me forward

1891
01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:56,560
was this

1892
01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:59,199
amazing conversation that was happening

1893
01:24:04,870 --> 01:24:00,320
between

1894
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:04,880
wayne and i and his his friend um

1895
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:06,480
and

1896
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:10,880
way there you know

1897
01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:12,480
what he had done

1898
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:14,080
to conceal

1899
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:15,199
um

1900
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:16,400
and

1901
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:18,000
um

1902
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:19,440
explaining

1903
01:24:21,270 --> 01:24:20,400
that

1904
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:21,280
uh

1905
01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:23,520
once you know once we arrived what i

1906
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:24,880
could expect

1907
01:24:28,830 --> 01:24:25,760
um

1908
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:28,840
and then before i knew it we were

1909
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:31,760
there and um

1910
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:33,120
he

1911
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:35,440
had indeed

1912
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:39,040
hidden it just as he had described to me

1913
01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:40,880
um and

1914
01:24:46,790 --> 01:24:45,040
so he he pulled back um some of the camo

1915
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:46,800
and because there was some camouflage

1916
01:24:51,270 --> 01:24:47,920
netting up

1917
01:24:52,709 --> 01:24:51,280
he he pulled it back and um

1918
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:52,719
and there

1919
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:54,480
there was

1920
01:25:03,110 --> 01:24:55,600
the tunnel

1921
01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:03,120
was it tall enough to walk in

1922
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:06,960
it was um now his friend

1923
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:08,639
wayne's friend who is with us is a

1924
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:12,400
little taller than wayne um he's maybe

1925
01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:13,360
uh

1926
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:15,840
oh i don't want to speculate but he was

1927
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:18,480
taller and um

1928
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:21,199
and and so he hunched a little bit but i

1929
01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:23,040
don't i don't really know that he needed

1930
01:25:27,350 --> 01:25:24,800
to or if it was just kind of the

1931
01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:27,360
reaction of a tall person and a tunnel

1932
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:29,679
you know um but he did he kind of shrunk

1933
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:32,000
his shoulders and and arched his back a

1934
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:34,000
little you know you know what i mean i'm

1935
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:35,040
just trying to make sure he wasn't

1936
01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:37,520
hitting his head but um nobody

1937
01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:40,560
was in danger of really of hitting their

1938
01:25:47,669 --> 01:25:45,040
head or um falling it was it was fairly

1939
01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:47,679
well excavated i mean it was you know

1940
01:25:53,910 --> 01:25:51,520
how um how the paths are uh the on the

1941
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:53,920
trails in in the mojave it was very much

1942
01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:56,400
like that you know um there's an area of

1943
01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:59,040
sand and then there's area of a rock

1944
01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:01,040
jutting out that you know he just didn't

1945
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:02,960
get all of it and you just have to kind

1946
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:04,400
of watch your footing um there was

1947
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:05,280
nothing

1948
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:08,880
bizarre about it honestly was it except

1949
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:10,000
that he was

1950
01:26:14,229 --> 01:26:12,000
that i was going to see you know the

1951
01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:14,239
aliens when i got to the end of it

1952
01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:18,870
that's actually funny

1953
01:26:22,149 --> 01:26:20,639
um

1954
01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:22,159
were there lights

1955
01:26:28,229 --> 01:26:24,480
oh oh oh is this at night or is this

1956
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:28,239
still in during the day

1957
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:29,840
we you know

1958
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:32,880
it was approximately 3 p.m okay so when

1959
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:33,920
we got

1960
01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:35,920
to the tunnel yeah when we arrived at

1961
01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:38,159
the tunnel it's about approximately 3 pm

1962
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:40,000
and what do you guys have

1963
01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:44,470
um

1964
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:52,070
one of them one of them had a headlamp

1965
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:53,360
um

1966
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:56,159
and there was a flashlight i had my

1967
01:27:03,350 --> 01:26:59,360
phone my my camera light was on you know

1968
01:27:04,470 --> 01:27:03,360
my torch on my i on my iphone um i had i

1969
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:04,480
had that

1970
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:06,400
ready to go for whatever was going to

1971
01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:09,360
happen you know camera on open

1972
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:11,199
light on um

1973
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:13,440
and that's how i walked all the way

1974
01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:14,960
through there um

1975
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:16,480
and

1976
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:19,760
you know we could see fairly well um

1977
01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:22,080
trisha and her friend were behind me and

1978
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:23,280
they were

1979
01:27:29,430 --> 01:27:26,639
literally just catching up like old

1980
01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:29,440
friends do and it was really strange to

1981
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:32,080
me because this was such an incredible

1982
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:34,239
moment for me very intense and i was

1983
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:36,159
really not understanding

1984
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:37,600
the way that the people were acting

1985
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:40,960
around me because they were so cavalier

1986
01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:42,080
about

1987
01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:45,760
going in to this tunnel and meeting

1988
01:27:51,350 --> 01:27:48,639
these these aliens that i really started

1989
01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:51,360
wondering what i had gotten myself into

1990
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:52,480
um

1991
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:54,880
and i was becoming increasingly you know

1992
01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:56,960
frustrated um

1993
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:00,400
and starting to wonder if i'd been had

1994
01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:02,960
um and

1995
01:28:07,990 --> 01:28:05,199
then um as we

1996
01:28:09,110 --> 01:28:08,000
as we made our way through um

1997
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:09,120
there

1998
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:10,960
was a light that was

1999
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:14,000
at what looked like the end of the

2000
01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:16,560
tunnel ahead of us now how

2001
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:19,360
how long is the tunnel how long

2002
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:24,790
oh goodness um i really don't want to

2003
01:28:28,870 --> 01:28:27,120
speculate every time i do jimmy i get

2004
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:28,880
raked across the coals i'm just not

2005
01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:31,440
gonna do it um you know i was in i was

2006
01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:33,360
walking for several minutes and that's

2007
01:28:38,229 --> 01:28:37,280
what i'll say um and then we saw the

2008
01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:38,239
light

2009
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:39,199
and

2010
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:40,320
um

2011
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:44,719
and he said well he's almost there and

2012
01:28:49,270 --> 01:28:47,199
and his friend became more excited

2013
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:49,280
because i was you know like pushing

2014
01:28:52,149 --> 01:28:50,880
forward at this point trying to get

2015
01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:52,159
beyond them

2016
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:53,920
and um

2017
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,880
and so you know he was kind of like

2018
01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:58,800
giggling like you know yeah she's really

2019
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:00,880
in it now you know like this is awesome

2020
01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:02,719
she's she's about to have an awesome

2021
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:05,440
experience and just he was it was he was

2022
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:09,040
becoming more animated and um so i got i

2023
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:11,920
got around him and i stood beside wayne

2024
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:13,199
um and we

2025
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:16,960
we came around um the

2026
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:20,960
he had indeed made a right-hand turn um

2027
01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:24,400
and we came around the corner and

2028
01:29:28,310 --> 01:29:26,000
there stood

2029
01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:28,320
two different races

2030
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:29,199
of

2031
01:29:33,990 --> 01:29:31,440
beings inside

2032
01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:34,000
of their base

2033
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:37,600
standing right there just like that

2034
01:29:39,590 --> 01:29:38,800
just

2035
01:29:41,030 --> 01:29:39,600
like

2036
01:29:42,229 --> 01:29:41,040
that

2037
01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:42,239
um

2038
01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:45,040
i'm 30 seconds from a break

2039
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:46,239
so

2040
01:29:49,350 --> 01:29:47,600
um

2041
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:49,360
obviously this is couldn't have been

2042
01:29:52,629 --> 01:29:51,440
timed any better this is a good spot for

2043
01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:52,639
a break

2044
01:29:56,390 --> 01:29:54,480
um

2045
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:56,400
and when we come back we we will

2046
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:58,560
continue uh of course we're talking to

2047
01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:00,320
anjali and

2048
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:04,080
and uh her first time into this et base

2049
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:07,199
in the mojave desert um

2050
01:30:11,430 --> 01:30:09,280
i have to say this you must have been

2051
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:11,440
relieved that it was zt

2052
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:14,159
and not a torture chamber for

2053
01:30:18,629 --> 01:30:16,400
the end of your life

2054
01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:18,639
like some kind of like

2055
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:21,120
snuff filmers yeah yeah i was incredibly

2056
01:30:25,590 --> 01:30:23,760
believed and i mean at that moment

2057
01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:25,600
nothing the rest of the world just

2058
01:30:29,750 --> 01:30:28,320
ceased to exist for me i was just 100

2059
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:29,760
focused on

2060
01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:32,080
on being standing in front of me so yeah

2061
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:33,760
let's take a break let's take our break

2062
01:30:38,149 --> 01:30:36,000
right yeah after the break that's good

2063
01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:38,159
that's good i got a co-host tonight

2064
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,320
anjali is here

2065
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:42,480
in e.t based in the mojave desert more

2066
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,320
with anjali when we come back this is

2067
01:30:48,860 --> 01:30:46,560
fade to black i'm real jimmy church stay

2068
01:30:54,710 --> 01:30:48,870
with us

2069
01:30:54,720 --> 01:31:05,270
[Music]

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

2071
01:31:13,350 --> 01:31:11,520
you're listening to fade to black

2072
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always on the edge of the hottest

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alternative talk jimmy church with fade

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[Applause]

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01:31:38,149 --> 01:31:35,510
do you want to be an official fate or

2076
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not of course you do this is jimmy

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church of fade to black just go to our

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does the downl

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[Music]

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01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:42,629
you are listening to fate to black with

2146
01:34:49,910 --> 01:34:47,440
jimmy church on the game changer network

2147
01:34:52,870 --> 01:34:49,920
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

2148
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jimmy church this is revolution the

2149
01:34:58,950 --> 01:34:55,679
revolution will not be televised the

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revolution is on radio

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[Music]

2152
01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:45,600
welcome back faded black i am your host

2153
01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:47,920
jimmy church

2154
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:51,280
tonight anjali is here and we're talking

2155
01:35:55,990 --> 01:35:53,760
about this e.t base in the mojave desert

2156
01:35:57,790 --> 01:35:56,000
more with angeline just a second got to

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talk to you about virtual shield

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you've got to get your own vpn you've

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got to run

2161
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in secret you've got to you've got to

2162
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hide your search history these days

2163
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you've got to keep your location private

2164
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there are crazy people out there there

2165
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are hackers after your

2166
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your information there's all of that and

2167
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then there's advertising and things you

2168
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just need to keep yourself private the

2169
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internet has exposed everything so do

2170
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what i do get virtual shield and it's

2171
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all simple to do

2172
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just go to the link in the video

2173
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that you can go to virtualshield.com

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forward slash fade to black you can do

2176
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that you can click on the links and all

2177
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of the banners that we have over on our

2178
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2182
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2183
01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:01,600
take my advice get a vpn get virtual

2184
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:04,800
shield today our guest tonight anjali

2185
01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:07,280
and again i've got to do a little recap

2186
01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:09,600
here and and especially if you're

2187
01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:11,760
joining the show a little bit late

2188
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:13,280
we're going through this incredible

2189
01:37:17,910 --> 01:37:15,840
journey that started at a coffee shop in

2190
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:17,920
southern california

2191
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:21,840
with wayne and his wife and uh

2192
01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:23,280
and and

2193
01:37:28,310 --> 01:37:24,719
and another couple

2194
01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:28,320
uh they end up uh going with anjali uh

2195
01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:31,119
to wayne's house his property where

2196
01:37:36,470 --> 01:37:33,760
apparently he owns a mountain and he's

2197
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:36,480
got a construction company he has found

2198
01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:40,080
an et base uh and that journey for him

2199
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:42,960
to get there he has uh dug a tunnel

2200
01:37:49,030 --> 01:37:46,239
board a tunnel into this mountain

2201
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:49,040
and takes anjali there with this other

2202
01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:51,040
couple the five of them

2203
01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:53,280
head down this tunnel on wayne's

2204
01:37:58,790 --> 01:37:55,840
property they take a right-hand turn

2205
01:38:00,470 --> 01:37:58,800
and they're in front of anjali is what

2206
01:38:01,430 --> 01:38:00,480
appears to be

2207
01:38:04,470 --> 01:38:01,440
to

2208
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:04,480
that's right two two aliens and you now

2209
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:07,199
um uh

2210
01:38:11,510 --> 01:38:09,360
yes more than two uh more than two but

2211
01:38:12,310 --> 01:38:11,520
you said two races

2212
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:12,320
right

2213
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:15,040
yes two species yes

2214
01:38:21,030 --> 01:38:17,920
right no they refer to themselves as

2215
01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:21,040
another race not another species ah very

2216
01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:26,000
interesting okay i you know in this pc

2217
01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:29,040
uh in this piece

2218
01:38:34,390 --> 01:38:31,440
in this in this pc world we live in

2219
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:34,400
today right you say race and and and

2220
01:38:38,709 --> 01:38:36,080
people jump all over me

2221
01:38:40,390 --> 01:38:38,719
so um but they they say race we're gonna

2222
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:40,400
go with race

2223
01:38:42,470 --> 01:38:41,360
okay

2224
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:42,480
um

2225
01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:44,639
describe what you're seeing how tall

2226
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:45,679
were they

2227
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:50,229
well um

2228
01:38:52,790 --> 01:38:51,520
one was

2229
01:38:54,950 --> 01:38:52,800
a gray

2230
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:54,960
um

2231
01:38:58,550 --> 01:38:56,320
now

2232
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:58,560
i need to differentiate here

2233
01:39:02,070 --> 01:38:59,920
between

2234
01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:02,080
what

2235
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:06,080
one of the types of beings that i think

2236
01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:08,560
that are sometimes referred to as grays

2237
01:39:10,830 --> 01:39:09,520
um

2238
01:39:13,270 --> 01:39:10,840
are

2239
01:39:14,550 --> 01:39:13,280
organic while

2240
01:39:18,950 --> 01:39:14,560
another

2241
01:39:20,229 --> 01:39:18,960
appears inorganic um but also contains a

2242
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:20,239
consciousness

2243
01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:23,280
okay um so i don't think that

2244
01:39:28,950 --> 01:39:26,880
drone or droid or any of those words are

2245
01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:28,960
accurate i don't think that we have a

2246
01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:31,199
word for what it is

2247
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:34,480
it's like an avatar it may be the

2248
01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:36,480
closest thing

2249
01:39:39,669 --> 01:39:38,560
that i could think of to accurately

2250
01:39:42,709 --> 01:39:39,679
describe

2251
01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:42,719
the gray that i was looking at so it was

2252
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:45,199
not a gray of the organic

2253
01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:48,960
nature okay um but

2254
01:39:51,109 --> 01:39:50,080
of

2255
01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:51,119
what

2256
01:40:00,470 --> 01:39:57,679
would consider inorganic

2257
01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:00,480
with our limited understanding of life

2258
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:02,639
and consciousness

2259
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:05,840
but that does contain um a consciousness

2260
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:09,360
that is aware and interactive so uh how

2261
01:40:18,310 --> 01:40:15,430
i would say about four foot about four

2262
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:18,320
foot about four feet okay so

2263
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:20,560
how tall are you by the way i wanted to

2264
01:40:25,990 --> 01:40:23,840
ask that earlier um well i

2265
01:40:27,990 --> 01:40:26,000
i used to be at one time in my life i

2266
01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:28,000
was five five and then i became five

2267
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:30,639
four and a half and today unfortunately

2268
01:40:37,270 --> 01:40:33,119
i'm five one um

2269
01:40:39,430 --> 01:40:37,280
so this i would this being was easily

2270
01:40:42,070 --> 01:40:39,440
uh a a foot

2271
01:40:44,470 --> 01:40:42,080
shorter so i i would say that four foot

2272
01:40:47,669 --> 01:40:44,480
is probably as as good as closest of a

2273
01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:47,679
guess as i could get okay and uh

2274
01:40:55,270 --> 01:40:51,760
so almost eye to eye

2275
01:41:00,790 --> 01:40:57,990
you've got a great smile by the way um

2276
01:41:02,709 --> 01:41:00,800
and and and anjali smiling at these

2277
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:02,719
questions just to let everybody know

2278
01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:05,360
okay so uh

2279
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:08,239
so but the description when you say gray

2280
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:10,960
is this uh you know the the typical

2281
01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:14,320
description that people have i have a i

2282
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,320
have a statue of one over there i could

2283
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:18,400
almost bring over but um

2284
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:19,840
you know what i'm you know what i'm

2285
01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:21,360
trying to say that

2286
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:22,080
yes

2287
01:41:30,629 --> 01:41:27,360
the almond-shaped head

2288
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:30,639
um you know the the the pointed chin

2289
01:41:35,830 --> 01:41:33,520
um you know more pointed i would say

2290
01:41:37,030 --> 01:41:35,840
than ours um

2291
01:41:41,510 --> 01:41:37,040
clothes

2292
01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:41,520
an illusion because it could just be

2293
01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:43,920
that the way that they're

2294
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:45,119
you know

2295
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:49,040
their the head is shaped may just go out

2296
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:51,199
in such a way that it looks you know

2297
01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:52,400
more

2298
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:55,199
um pointed at the chin so i'm not really

2299
01:41:58,830 --> 01:41:57,040
sure if it really is or if it's just

2300
01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:58,840
because their head is

2301
01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:01,280
big but um

2302
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:03,920
a very thin neck um

2303
01:42:06,070 --> 01:42:04,719
and

2304
01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:06,080
uh

2305
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:08,719
i would say you know just all in all

2306
01:42:12,149 --> 01:42:10,880
spindly um

2307
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:12,159
uh with

2308
01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:14,400
the closest kind of fabric that i could

2309
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:17,840
think of that that was over the art the

2310
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:20,159
body is like a

2311
01:42:26,830 --> 01:42:21,119
like a

2312
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:26,840
neoprene you know um a grade neoprene um

2313
01:42:31,109 --> 01:42:28,800
and uh

2314
01:42:33,669 --> 01:42:31,119
it's uh

2315
01:42:36,149 --> 01:42:33,679
they they just looked they just looked

2316
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:36,159
right at me and um

2317
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:37,440
spoke to me

2318
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:39,679
right in into my head

2319
01:42:42,870 --> 01:42:40,639
okay

2320
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:42,880
we'll come back to that

2321
01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:47,040
describe the second being

2322
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,830
i'm so sorry um

2323
01:43:01,030 --> 01:42:55,030
the second

2324
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:01,040
and i need to say that that the

2325
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,280
that the gray um

2326
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:05,520
no discernible

2327
01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:07,040
gender

2328
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:13,679
yeah just nothing that it not even like

2329
01:43:18,470 --> 01:43:15,360
it's trying to

2330
01:43:20,709 --> 01:43:18,480
replicate you know the idea of a gender

2331
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:20,719
in an inorganic you know like if if we

2332
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:22,560
were saying like it's a metal robot okay

2333
01:43:25,669 --> 01:43:24,239
just i'm not saying that that's what i

2334
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:25,679
saw so that everybody's out there i'm

2335
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:27,840
just saying you know that if it were

2336
01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:31,040
something like that um you understand so

2337
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:32,159
uh

2338
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:34,080
um

2339
01:43:37,109 --> 01:43:35,440
so

2340
01:43:42,790 --> 01:43:37,119
the

2341
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:42,800
quite beautiful

2342
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:43,760
they're

2343
01:43:47,430 --> 01:43:44,880
uh

2344
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:47,440
very humanoid um

2345
01:43:50,229 --> 01:43:48,960
slender

2346
01:43:52,070 --> 01:43:50,239
but fit

2347
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:52,080
um

2348
01:43:56,070 --> 01:43:54,719
six you know around six foot maybe a

2349
01:43:56,530 --> 01:43:56,080
little taller

2350
01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:56,540
um

2351
01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:59,360
[Music]

2352
01:44:04,629 --> 01:44:01,760
male and and female

2353
01:44:06,870 --> 01:44:04,639
gender expressions in their appearance

2354
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:06,880
you know like

2355
01:44:11,590 --> 01:44:08,880
one one of them had

2356
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:11,600
longer hair was more feminine um so they

2357
01:44:14,390 --> 01:44:13,199
they appeared to be feminine and

2358
01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:14,400
masculine

2359
01:44:20,149 --> 01:44:16,800
while also being you know very

2360
01:44:20,540 --> 01:44:20,159
you know just slender but

2361
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:20,550
um

2362
01:44:22,709 --> 01:44:21,840
[Music]

2363
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:22,719
their

2364
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:25,440
was

2365
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,400
really quite

2366
01:44:31,590 --> 01:44:30,320
pale um

2367
01:44:32,470 --> 01:44:31,600
and

2368
01:44:35,510 --> 01:44:32,480
you know

2369
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:35,520
virgin on white and

2370
01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:37,600
their skin was

2371
01:44:40,790 --> 01:44:39,360
was very white and

2372
01:44:41,750 --> 01:44:40,800
um

2373
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:41,760
almost

2374
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:47,760
or you know perfect

2375
01:44:53,030 --> 01:44:49,920
perfect their skin was just they're just

2376
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:53,040
beautiful they're just very beautiful um

2377
01:44:56,229 --> 01:44:54,320
uh

2378
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:56,239
didn't express much in the way of

2379
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:57,840
personality

2380
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:00,719
which is kind of interesting um

2381
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:03,840
uh and i i've been thinking about this

2382
01:45:11,750 --> 01:45:10,310
thinking about the way

2383
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:11,760
that these

2384
01:45:15,750 --> 01:45:13,679
what i have begun to call tall wives

2385
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:15,760
because i just don't know i don't know i

2386
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:18,239
don't have a name um

2387
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:19,920
they uh

2388
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:21,840
they didn't interact with me they kind

2389
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:24,400
of it was more like they escorted me

2390
01:45:28,790 --> 01:45:27,040
that's sort of how it felt and

2391
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:28,800
um they were all dressed the same and

2392
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:31,119
now you know thinking about that

2393
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:33,280
not communicating with me all dressed

2394
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:35,920
the same very stoic an expression even

2395
01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:37,520
though they were beautiful they they

2396
01:45:43,270 --> 01:45:40,800
showed me absolutely no emotion um just

2397
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:43,280
just ambivalence okay

2398
01:45:45,910 --> 01:45:45,040
um stoicism

2399
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:45,920
uh

2400
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:48,000
i think they may be

2401
01:45:51,189 --> 01:45:49,360
security

2402
01:45:53,430 --> 01:45:51,199
that's what i have determined is that

2403
01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:53,440
they may be just kind of like

2404
01:46:01,510 --> 01:46:00,629
very very very interesting oh okay let's

2405
01:46:03,669 --> 01:46:01,520
um

2406
01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:03,679
let's back up from that moment what

2407
01:46:12,709 --> 01:46:07,360
what's wayne in the crew doing um while

2408
01:46:17,430 --> 01:46:15,350
wayne is standing beside me

2409
01:46:20,870 --> 01:46:17,440
and his friend is kind of over my

2410
01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:20,880
shoulder and the women are behind and um

2411
01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:24,639
uh they're just they're just there and i

2412
01:46:29,669 --> 01:46:27,360
you know the the the beings speak to me

2413
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:29,679
and i'm already stepping forward to them

2414
01:46:33,910 --> 01:46:31,360
i have to tell you that

2415
01:46:35,910 --> 01:46:33,920
there was absolutely no fear no

2416
01:46:38,950 --> 01:46:35,920
hesitation as soon as i saw them i just

2417
01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:38,960
kept walking like this is just amazing

2418
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:42,400
and um and i walked right up to them and

2419
01:46:44,629 --> 01:46:43,760
um

2420
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:44,639
they

2421
01:46:48,070 --> 01:46:46,400
i could hear

2422
01:46:49,510 --> 01:46:48,080
their conversation

2423
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:49,520
with the others

2424
01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:52,719
okay none of them spoke but i could hear

2425
01:46:57,030 --> 01:46:56,159
the gray addressing the others

2426
01:47:02,390 --> 01:46:57,040
and

2427
01:47:03,270 --> 01:47:02,400
now think about that i could hear they

2428
01:47:04,530 --> 01:47:03,280
their

2429
01:47:07,750 --> 01:47:04,540
response um

2430
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:10,950
the

2431
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:14,560
that

2432
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:20,080
back home

2433
01:47:25,430 --> 01:47:21,280
and

2434
01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:25,440
wayne was not down with that um

2435
01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:28,639
wayne knows you know that

2436
01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:30,800
that this is the first time that i've

2437
01:47:36,229 --> 01:47:33,280
been here he's responsible for me people

2438
01:47:38,470 --> 01:47:36,239
out there know that and and

2439
01:47:41,270 --> 01:47:38,480
this is a testament to what a decent

2440
01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:41,280
human being he was

2441
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:43,440
you know to a stranger i really was a

2442
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:47,040
stranger and he was just no i you know

2443
01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:48,880
i'm not going to go

2444
01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:50,800
and so they said okay you can stay but

2445
01:47:56,629 --> 01:47:52,480
the rest of you need to leave

2446
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:56,639
and so he stood there um and the rest of

2447
01:48:00,790 --> 01:47:59,119
them just walked off and i didn't know

2448
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:00,800
where they went i just assumed they went

2449
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:03,040
home i really didn't even care at that

2450
01:48:07,590 --> 01:48:06,400
point um and uh

2451
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:07,600
so

2452
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:11,920
for me to come back

2453
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:14,080
okay

2454
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:15,920
can you describe

2455
01:48:19,109 --> 01:48:17,440
uh

2456
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:19,119
remember i'm hearing this for the first

2457
01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:20,639
time so

2458
01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:22,320
uh sure

2459
01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:24,960
can you describe the environment this

2460
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:30,390
yes well um

2461
01:48:32,950 --> 01:48:31,199
the

2462
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:32,960
area that

2463
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:36,400
that i was that i entered into

2464
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:38,480
the best way that i could call that i

2465
01:48:44,149 --> 01:48:41,280
could describe it would be an alcove or

2466
01:48:47,030 --> 01:48:44,159
a lobby okay meaning it's just like an

2467
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:47,040
area that leads to a lot of other areas

2468
01:48:49,510 --> 01:48:48,000
um

2469
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:49,520
there

2470
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:52,000
the interior was very smooth

2471
01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:54,239
um

2472
01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:55,360
it was

2473
01:49:02,310 --> 01:48:57,520
you know a light

2474
01:49:04,550 --> 01:49:02,320
a light color very smooth texture um

2475
01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:04,560
not like a dark metal or you know

2476
01:49:09,109 --> 01:49:06,719
gunmetal gray or anything like that

2477
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:09,119
i don't know what it was made out of

2478
01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:11,520
uh there weren't

2479
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:14,400
sharp angles

2480
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:17,920
everything was very soft and

2481
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:20,320
round

2482
01:49:25,270 --> 01:49:23,360
when i first stepped forward

2483
01:49:27,189 --> 01:49:25,280
right over to my right

2484
01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:27,199
there was

2485
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:30,320
a what i now know is a room which but it

2486
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:32,400
was just a big arch and

2487
01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:34,719
there was what i'm going to assume was

2488
01:49:40,629 --> 01:49:38,320
another door um over to my left there

2489
01:49:43,270 --> 01:49:40,639
was there was another arch but it was

2490
01:49:45,030 --> 01:49:43,280
all black and

2491
01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:45,040
and i couldn't see

2492
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:48,000
what was there it was like the absence

2493
01:49:52,229 --> 01:49:50,639
of light was there um

2494
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:52,239
and

2495
01:49:56,229 --> 01:49:54,320
all i can say jimmy is i think that

2496
01:49:58,470 --> 01:49:56,239
whatever was there they just didn't want

2497
01:49:59,910 --> 01:49:58,480
me to see it that it was an actual

2498
01:50:03,910 --> 01:49:59,920
physical thing

2499
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:03,920
that i was not permitted to see okay

2500
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:06,719
no idea what that was

2501
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:10,800
and uh so this alcove uh

2502
01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:12,880
you can stay

2503
01:50:16,390 --> 01:50:14,400
um

2504
01:50:19,510 --> 01:50:16,400
how many other you you said that there

2505
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:19,520
were other beings um in this alcove how

2506
01:50:24,950 --> 01:50:22,159
many were there yes

2507
01:50:26,870 --> 01:50:24,960
okay um there were

2508
01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:26,880
at one point

2509
01:50:30,629 --> 01:50:29,760
it was just it was the gray

2510
01:50:33,030 --> 01:50:30,639
and

2511
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:33,040
three tall whites

2512
01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:35,520
at another point it was the gray and

2513
01:50:41,669 --> 01:50:37,360
four tall wipes like it

2514
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:43,990
there was one that kept coming

2515
01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:44,960
back

2516
01:50:50,149 --> 01:50:47,520
down the hall when i was standing there

2517
01:50:51,430 --> 01:50:50,159
like i saw them leave and i saw them

2518
01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:51,440
come back

2519
01:50:56,470 --> 01:50:55,510
yes and then

2520
01:50:59,669 --> 01:50:56,480
um

2521
01:51:02,310 --> 01:50:59,679
we all went down the hall there was

2522
01:51:05,350 --> 01:51:02,320
there was a door behind where they were

2523
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:05,360
standing okay um in this alcove i want

2524
01:51:08,310 --> 01:51:07,040
to go back to that real quick so i'm

2525
01:51:11,270 --> 01:51:08,320
standing

2526
01:51:12,229 --> 01:51:11,280
i've just stepped in to my right is this

2527
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:12,239
door

2528
01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:14,400
to my left is

2529
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:16,800
nothing um like the absence of

2530
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:19,760
everything and then to you know straight

2531
01:51:24,709 --> 01:51:22,080
not straight ahead but um because it's

2532
01:51:25,510 --> 01:51:24,719
not it's not square it was a little off

2533
01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:25,520
too

2534
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:27,679
um like the

2535
01:51:31,589 --> 01:51:28,639
uh

2536
01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:31,599
a little over to the left there was a

2537
01:51:37,750 --> 01:51:32,880
another

2538
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:37,760
room that i didn't go into and then

2539
01:51:42,070 --> 01:51:40,400
beside that was the the hallway that was

2540
01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:42,080
kind of curved and went down

2541
01:51:45,589 --> 01:51:43,520
um to

2542
01:51:48,950 --> 01:51:45,599
the room that they took me into yeah and

2543
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:48,960
so do they uh

2544
01:51:52,870 --> 01:51:51,119
nobody's speaking this is telepathic and

2545
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:52,880
it's coming from the grays

2546
01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:54,400
or the gray you're not getting

2547
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:57,679
communication from the tall whites

2548
01:52:03,669 --> 01:51:59,920
that's right they haven't spoken to me

2549
01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:03,679
okay and so when you turn around and you

2550
01:52:09,109 --> 01:52:06,560
guys head down the hallway did the gray

2551
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:09,119
say to you okay come with us or did they

2552
01:52:13,830 --> 01:52:11,679
just turn and you followed naturally how

2553
01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:13,840
did that happen

2554
01:52:18,550 --> 01:52:16,239
it was exactly that it was just they

2555
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:18,560
started walking and i knew to go okay so

2556
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:21,679
i followed okay let's go let's go let's

2557
01:52:24,950 --> 01:52:24,000
go down the hallway what happens

2558
01:52:27,030 --> 01:52:24,960
all right

2559
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:27,040
so um so

2560
01:52:28,870 --> 01:52:27,760
we

2561
01:52:31,350 --> 01:52:28,880
um

2562
01:52:33,510 --> 01:52:31,360
we were walking down the hallway we came

2563
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:33,520
to another um

2564
01:52:38,149 --> 01:52:36,400
just a an arch um

2565
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:38,159
and

2566
01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:40,080
there was a door

2567
01:52:42,229 --> 01:52:40,960
uh

2568
01:52:43,830 --> 01:52:42,239
i i didn't

2569
01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:43,840
know that they were doors at the time

2570
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:46,800
until this moment but a door slid like a

2571
01:52:50,470 --> 01:52:48,400
oh what do they call it like a pocket

2572
01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:50,480
door i think they call them they slide

2573
01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:52,400
into the in the wall and that's what

2574
01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:54,320
this thing did it just slid right into

2575
01:52:56,870 --> 01:52:55,280
the wall

2576
01:53:00,070 --> 01:52:56,880
um and

2577
01:53:02,709 --> 01:53:00,080
opened up into a larger room on the

2578
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:02,719
other side um meaning that the ceiling

2579
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:03,840
was much

2580
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:05,760
much higher than the room i was in the

2581
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:07,520
lighting was different and there were

2582
01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:08,960
there were several

2583
01:53:13,189 --> 01:53:10,480
um

2584
01:53:15,430 --> 01:53:13,199
several beings of our races of beings

2585
01:53:16,229 --> 01:53:15,440
that were in there and um

2586
01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:16,239
and

2587
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:18,800
quite a few of them um

2588
01:53:22,070 --> 01:53:20,639
it was it was

2589
01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:22,080
it was

2590
01:53:30,149 --> 01:53:27,119
can imagine yeah um the

2591
01:53:32,629 --> 01:53:30,159
what was this room can you take

2592
01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:32,639
can you take a guess as to what the

2593
01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:34,560
purple what the function of this room

2594
01:53:38,950 --> 01:53:36,800
was

2595
01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:38,960
yes and i want to start with the very

2596
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:41,360
first thing that i saw um or that i that

2597
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:43,360
i noticed when the door opened um

2598
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:46,239
because it really helps me to understand

2599
01:53:49,669 --> 01:53:47,840
um who

2600
01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:49,679
this being is and what their their

2601
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:51,920
purpose is um

2602
01:54:04,310 --> 01:53:53,520
i

2603
01:54:12,950 --> 01:54:04,320
um

2604
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:12,960
extraterrestrial

2605
01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:16,800
okay that had you know lavender-ish

2606
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:17,679
skin

2607
01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:20,800
um was standing you know how they showed

2608
01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:22,159
me themselves was that they were

2609
01:54:27,830 --> 01:54:25,599
standing at at the end of a hallway um

2610
01:54:29,750 --> 01:54:27,840
and that there were there was a window

2611
01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:29,760
behind them like a round window that was

2612
01:54:34,149 --> 01:54:32,080
nearly the size of his whole body

2613
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:34,159
um and then there was a

2614
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:37,840
um a a long window that that came

2615
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:38,880
forward

2616
01:54:43,830 --> 01:54:39,840
to

2617
01:54:46,709 --> 01:54:43,840
see them from that perspective and there

2618
01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:46,719
was a door um around door that was over

2619
01:54:50,950 --> 01:54:49,119
here and anyway behind them i could see

2620
01:54:53,270 --> 01:54:50,960
like a um

2621
01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:53,280
the best way i can describe this like um

2622
01:54:57,109 --> 01:54:55,520
uh orange creamsicle or peaches and

2623
01:54:58,870 --> 01:54:57,119
cream

2624
01:55:01,589 --> 01:54:58,880
um colored

2625
01:55:06,310 --> 01:55:01,599
uh planet it behind them

2626
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:06,320
um outside in in space and

2627
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:07,199
so

2628
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:08,960
from from what how they had showed

2629
01:55:12,870 --> 01:55:11,280
themselves to me i had

2630
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:12,880
believed that they were about four foot

2631
01:55:18,709 --> 01:55:15,520
tall um

2632
01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:18,719
but this so this door opens and i'm i'm

2633
01:55:24,070 --> 01:55:21,760
looking at you know part of of a

2634
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:24,080
lavender being and my eyes just go up

2635
01:55:28,629 --> 01:55:26,239
and they're literally you know

2636
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:28,639
approaching probably eight feet tall

2637
01:55:35,510 --> 01:55:32,080
jimmy and it is the being that i had

2638
01:55:37,669 --> 01:55:35,520
been speaking to um i had absolutely no

2639
01:55:39,669 --> 01:55:37,679
idea because there was no scale there

2640
01:55:41,030 --> 01:55:39,679
was nothing but this being in their

2641
01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:41,040
environment

2642
01:55:44,830 --> 01:55:43,360
um

2643
01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:44,840
and so

2644
01:55:50,390 --> 01:55:46,480
um

2645
01:55:53,350 --> 01:55:50,400
i believe that that they're a doctor and

2646
01:55:55,030 --> 01:55:53,360
that that's you know their their role is

2647
01:55:59,430 --> 01:55:55,040
is healing you know like they're a

2648
01:56:02,310 --> 01:55:59,440
healer they diagnose and heal um and um

2649
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:02,320
it it had the feel of

2650
01:56:04,629 --> 01:56:03,679
um

2651
01:56:07,510 --> 01:56:04,639
you know

2652
01:56:11,109 --> 01:56:07,520
i was getting care basically

2653
01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:11,119
that's what i was there for okay okay um

2654
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:14,239
the windows and and the one that came up

2655
01:56:18,790 --> 01:56:16,960
to you what was the window there for uh

2656
01:56:20,229 --> 01:56:18,800
what was on the other side of it why

2657
01:56:23,669 --> 01:56:20,239
would you need to see through it in

2658
01:56:24,709 --> 01:56:23,679
other words what was the window for

2659
01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:24,719
okay

2660
01:56:29,669 --> 01:56:26,960
let's make sure that we understand

2661
01:56:32,229 --> 01:56:29,679
what i'm let me recap just a bit so that

2662
01:56:34,470 --> 01:56:32,239
there isn't any confusion sure when i'm

2663
01:56:35,189 --> 01:56:34,480
talking about how he first appeared to

2664
01:56:37,270 --> 01:56:35,199
me

2665
01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:37,280
i'm saying that that was during

2666
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:40,080
conscious contact before i had seen them

2667
01:56:45,109 --> 01:56:42,480
physically no

2668
01:56:46,870 --> 01:56:45,119
no that was totally very clear no

2669
01:56:49,030 --> 01:56:46,880
totally get that and we're gonna no

2670
01:56:51,189 --> 01:56:49,040
we're gonna come back to lavender guy

2671
01:56:54,310 --> 01:56:51,199
just

2672
01:56:56,870 --> 01:56:54,320
a second

2673
01:56:58,149 --> 01:56:56,880
um when i was what i was asking is when

2674
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:58,159
you when you said that there were

2675
01:57:06,070 --> 01:57:00,000
windows in this room

2676
01:57:09,430 --> 01:57:06,460
um

2677
01:57:12,149 --> 01:57:09,440
[Music]

2678
01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:12,159
window are just now i don't remember the

2679
01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:14,639
windows or in the hall or in

2680
01:57:19,589 --> 01:57:16,800
the hallway that he showed me not the

2681
01:57:22,229 --> 01:57:19,599
hallway where he was standing not those

2682
01:57:24,950 --> 01:57:22,239
windows were not where we were

2683
01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:24,960
he was showing me a different place

2684
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:26,880
so i don't

2685
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:29,440
it was like the ship itself

2686
01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:31,599
okay that i thought that's with that we

2687
01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:34,880
weren't communicating yeah um

2688
01:57:38,390 --> 01:57:37,599
absolutely uh that was

2689
01:57:40,870 --> 01:57:38,400
not

2690
01:57:42,470 --> 01:57:40,880
the place that i was at

2691
01:57:45,830 --> 01:57:42,480
now

2692
01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:45,840
very interesting okay let's uh

2693
01:57:50,390 --> 01:57:47,920
man i'm looking at the clock

2694
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:50,400
we're gonna run out of time tonight i

2695
01:57:53,669 --> 01:57:52,560
knew this was gonna happen too i knew it

2696
01:57:56,629 --> 01:57:53,679
i knew it

2697
01:58:00,310 --> 01:57:56,639
um and if i can get you are you an idol

2698
01:58:03,109 --> 01:58:00,320
can i get you to stay for some overtime

2699
01:58:04,830 --> 01:58:03,119
yeah absolutely i am a night owl that's

2700
01:58:08,470 --> 01:58:04,840
what i'm talking about

2701
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:08,480
okay you just said

2702
01:58:14,709 --> 01:58:13,589
right yeah i think that i that he was

2703
01:58:18,310 --> 01:58:14,719
showing me

2704
01:58:19,669 --> 01:58:18,320
a craft in space yes outside of earth's

2705
01:58:21,510 --> 01:58:19,679
atmosphere

2706
01:58:24,709 --> 01:58:21,520
and yeah and

2707
01:58:26,229 --> 01:58:24,719
this base now remember

2708
01:58:28,870 --> 01:58:26,239
not you uh

2709
01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:28,880
the audience remember that she described

2710
01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:30,080
uh

2711
01:58:33,189 --> 01:58:32,080
wayne's encounters

2712
01:58:35,109 --> 01:58:33,199
of seeing

2713
01:58:37,830 --> 01:58:35,119
something over the top of his mountain

2714
01:58:38,629 --> 01:58:37,840
which started all of this right

2715
01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:38,639
um

2716
01:58:44,629 --> 01:58:42,880
do you think that those or did you see

2717
01:58:46,830 --> 01:58:44,639
were those ships

2718
01:58:50,149 --> 01:58:46,840
going into the

2719
01:58:52,229 --> 01:58:50,159
mountain to the base

2720
01:58:54,870 --> 01:58:52,239
i didn't see that but that was my

2721
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:54,880
understanding from wayne

2722
01:59:00,149 --> 01:58:57,280
absolutely that they that they enter the

2723
01:59:02,870 --> 01:59:00,159
base or ex yes excuse me that they go

2724
01:59:05,830 --> 01:59:02,880
into the mountain in in into the base

2725
01:59:08,790 --> 01:59:05,840
now um uh before we get to the break and

2726
01:59:11,750 --> 01:59:08,800
i just have two minutes 90 seconds

2727
01:59:13,510 --> 01:59:11,760
this base what what is the purpose is it

2728
01:59:16,629 --> 01:59:13,520
uh barracks

2729
01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:16,639
right is this a living environment or is

2730
01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:23,830
i i don't know um

2731
01:59:29,189 --> 01:59:24,800
my

2732
01:59:31,030 --> 01:59:29,199
they have been living there and that

2733
01:59:32,070 --> 01:59:31,040
this is part of

2734
01:59:33,510 --> 01:59:32,080
um

2735
01:59:39,030 --> 01:59:33,520
their

2736
01:59:41,030 --> 01:59:39,040
here how far did you and we'll we'll

2737
01:59:42,870 --> 01:59:41,040
pick up after the break now that i know

2738
01:59:45,109 --> 01:59:42,880
that you're doing overtime that gives us

2739
01:59:47,990 --> 01:59:45,119
a little cushion how far did you get

2740
01:59:49,990 --> 01:59:48,000
into the base

2741
01:59:53,750 --> 01:59:50,000
not far at all

2742
01:59:55,750 --> 01:59:53,760
i just

2743
01:59:58,470 --> 01:59:55,760
briefly walked down this hall and it was

2744
02:00:00,709 --> 01:59:58,480
the first room to our left

2745
02:00:02,550 --> 02:00:00,719
um and there was no other room that we

2746
02:00:04,229 --> 02:00:02,560
passed on the right

2747
02:00:05,589 --> 02:00:04,239
so not after

2748
02:00:10,870 --> 02:00:05,599
the

2749
02:00:13,030 --> 02:00:10,880
right yeah so when you go in and and and

2750
02:00:15,270 --> 02:00:13,040
we're gonna discuss the lavender being

2751
02:00:18,070 --> 02:00:15,280
uh when we come back after the break but

2752
02:00:19,189 --> 02:00:18,080
this room where there's several races in

2753
02:00:21,910 --> 02:00:19,199
this room

2754
02:00:24,550 --> 02:00:21,920
was that as far into the base as you got

2755
02:00:27,030 --> 02:00:24,560
was that where it stopped

2756
02:00:27,990 --> 02:00:27,040
it absolutely is i did not get any

2757
02:00:30,470 --> 02:00:28,000
further

2758
02:00:31,589 --> 02:00:30,480
now i was escorted that room back to the

2759
02:00:33,990 --> 02:00:31,599
alcove

2760
02:00:37,990 --> 02:00:34,000
and kicked out

2761
02:00:40,390 --> 02:00:38,000
kicked out literally yeah okay so um

2762
02:00:42,950 --> 02:00:40,400
uh now this may seem

2763
02:00:44,790 --> 02:00:42,960
uh i've got 30 seconds was there any

2764
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:44,800
artwork on the wall

2765
02:00:49,669 --> 02:00:47,199
was there any decorations was there

2766
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:49,679
anything that seemed comfortable

2767
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:52,480
or was it institutional

2768
02:00:58,629 --> 02:00:56,080
it was very institutional it was um a

2769
02:01:00,629 --> 02:00:58,639
it it was a everything was soft like i

2770
02:01:02,229 --> 02:01:00,639
said there weren't sharp edges but it

2771
02:01:05,750 --> 02:01:02,239
was um

2772
02:01:07,030 --> 02:01:05,760
it was austere they're in smooth there

2773
02:01:08,870 --> 02:01:07,040
were no

2774
02:01:11,750 --> 02:01:08,880
expressions of

2775
02:01:14,149 --> 02:01:11,760
of creativity beyond just the fact that

2776
02:01:15,910 --> 02:01:14,159
it was something that i've never ever

2777
02:01:17,990 --> 02:01:15,920
seen a human do

2778
02:01:20,870 --> 02:01:18,000
so they didn't have van halen pipe

2779
02:01:23,350 --> 02:01:20,880
through on a speaker system

2780
02:01:25,030 --> 02:01:23,360
no it was silent it was silent let's

2781
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:25,040
take our break right here this is fade

2782
02:01:29,589 --> 02:01:27,280
to black i'm your host jimmy church

2783
02:01:30,550 --> 02:01:29,599
tonight anjali is here for the first

2784
02:01:33,669 --> 02:01:30,560
time

2785
02:01:35,350 --> 02:01:33,679
i am hearing all of this with you for

2786
02:01:36,340 --> 02:01:35,360
the first time we'll be right back after

2787
02:01:44,790 --> 02:01:36,350
this short break

2788
02:01:55,990 --> 02:01:45,790
hi

2789
02:01:59,589 --> 02:01:56,000
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2790
02:02:01,430 --> 02:01:59,599
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02:02:05,350 --> 02:02:03,599
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02:02:09,910 --> 02:02:07,199
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2870
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you want to know a secret

2871
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i love police i really love ponies i'm

2872
02:05:51,669 --> 02:05:49,760
serious

2873
02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:51,679
i couldn't stay sane without pawn

2874
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:53,440
instabrush

2875
02:06:00,830 --> 02:05:55,440
why fade to black

2876
02:06:06,470 --> 02:06:03,669
pony this is fade to black with jimmy

2877
02:06:11,310 --> 02:06:06,480
church on the game changer radio network

2878
02:06:25,189 --> 02:06:11,320
and kgra the global radio alliance

2879
02:06:30,069 --> 02:06:27,430
welcome back paid to black i am your

2880
02:06:35,669 --> 02:06:30,079
host jimmy church

2881
02:06:41,109 --> 02:06:38,709
i almost just did a recap i don't even

2882
02:06:45,109 --> 02:06:41,119
know where to start with that recap but

2883
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:45,119
let's just say this we are uh

2884
02:06:50,950 --> 02:06:48,480
uh we have entered uh the base

2885
02:06:53,589 --> 02:06:50,960
um uh alcove

2886
02:06:56,790 --> 02:06:53,599
uh down

2887
02:07:04,709 --> 02:07:00,870
tall whites one gray then two

2888
02:07:07,830 --> 02:07:04,719
go down a hallway and into a larger room

2889
02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:07,840
uh where there are other races

2890
02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:10,800
and uh i'm very curious about

2891
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:13,679
the lavender great description by the

2892
02:07:18,629 --> 02:07:16,400
way um you can capture visual but i have

2893
02:07:20,149 --> 02:07:18,639
no idea what this being

2894
02:07:24,629 --> 02:07:20,159
looks like so we're going to talk about

2895
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:26,069
we'll get as much in and then we're

2896
02:07:30,149 --> 02:07:28,480
going to do some overtime with anjali

2897
02:07:32,709 --> 02:07:30,159
okay so

2898
02:07:36,470 --> 02:07:32,719
uh let's let's go back uh

2899
02:07:38,390 --> 02:07:36,480
to the room before you leave um

2900
02:07:39,350 --> 02:07:38,400
i do have a general question do you have

2901
02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:39,360
any

2902
02:07:47,109 --> 02:07:42,880
time reference on how long you were you

2903
02:07:49,750 --> 02:07:48,480
i do um

2904
02:07:51,669 --> 02:07:49,760
[Music]

2905
02:07:55,350 --> 02:07:51,679
i can say that

2906
02:07:58,550 --> 02:07:55,360
when i arrived back at his house um it

2907
02:08:01,589 --> 02:07:58,560
was around nine o'clock okay so

2908
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:01,599
it about six hours had passed

2909
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:04,719
wow wow okay and and

2910
02:08:14,069 --> 02:08:11,589
no yeah no

2911
02:08:17,109 --> 02:08:14,079
i i get it i get it i get it i get it

2912
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:17,119
caught up in the moment for sure and

2913
02:08:21,669 --> 02:08:19,360
uh

2914
02:08:25,350 --> 02:08:21,679
i'm not sure that that's all that it is

2915
02:08:27,830 --> 02:08:25,360
jimmy um because honestly we are dealing

2916
02:08:31,990 --> 02:08:27,840
with um

2917
02:08:33,669 --> 02:08:32,000
i was there for six hours um i

2918
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:33,679
cannot

2919
02:08:38,950 --> 02:08:36,000
you know recount every moment of this of

2920
02:08:41,030 --> 02:08:38,960
that six hour period and um and that

2921
02:08:43,589 --> 02:08:41,040
doesn't mean that it wasn't eventful it

2922
02:08:45,510 --> 02:08:43,599
means that i just simply there's

2923
02:08:48,709 --> 02:08:45,520
there are there's time

2924
02:08:49,589 --> 02:08:48,719
that i simply do not have

2925
02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:49,599
um

2926
02:08:53,830 --> 02:08:50,560
so

2927
02:08:55,189 --> 02:08:53,840
all i know is that when i got back to

2928
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:55,199
wayne's house

2929
02:08:59,669 --> 02:08:56,719
um the

2930
02:09:00,629 --> 02:08:59,679
my cell phone was in my pocket

2931
02:09:01,510 --> 02:09:00,639
um

2932
02:09:04,149 --> 02:09:01,520
and

2933
02:09:05,109 --> 02:09:04,159
that's all i can say you know so i i

2934
02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:05,119
don't know

2935
02:09:10,069 --> 02:09:07,520
when i put it there or why they may have

2936
02:09:11,510 --> 02:09:10,079
told me to um i don't know

2937
02:09:14,629 --> 02:09:11,520
but uh

2938
02:09:17,030 --> 02:09:14,639
i do know that if they had wanted me

2939
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:17,040
to have a photo of them they would have

2940
02:09:20,470 --> 02:09:18,560
given me one

2941
02:09:21,350 --> 02:09:20,480
um but

2942
02:09:25,669 --> 02:09:21,360
i

2943
02:09:27,669 --> 02:09:25,679
they

2944
02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:27,679
really were looking for

2945
02:09:31,270 --> 02:09:28,639
um

2946
02:09:33,589 --> 02:09:31,280
a different experience at that moment

2947
02:09:35,910 --> 02:09:33,599
with me and um that it just simply

2948
02:09:37,990 --> 02:09:35,920
wasn't time for me to

2949
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:38,000
to go out and

2950
02:09:42,550 --> 02:09:40,320
and show physical evidence that they

2951
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:42,560
were there they had something else that

2952
02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:44,560
needed to be done first

2953
02:09:50,709 --> 02:09:47,360
let's uh let's talk about uh

2954
02:09:52,550 --> 02:09:50,719
the lavender being um

2955
02:09:54,069 --> 02:09:52,560
you did uh

2956
02:09:57,270 --> 02:09:54,079
say that it

2957
02:09:58,550 --> 02:09:57,280
it was about eight feet tall and and

2958
02:09:59,830 --> 02:09:58,560
what else

2959
02:10:04,470 --> 02:09:59,840
yeah to

2960
02:10:07,350 --> 02:10:05,910
um

2961
02:10:09,350 --> 02:10:07,360
eight foot tall

2962
02:10:13,109 --> 02:10:09,360
um

2963
02:10:18,229 --> 02:10:13,119
i

2964
02:10:24,229 --> 02:10:18,239
the

2965
02:10:25,750 --> 02:10:24,239
unfortunately

2966
02:10:30,229 --> 02:10:25,760
uh

2967
02:10:32,229 --> 02:10:30,239
they had a very thin neck

2968
02:10:35,669 --> 02:10:32,239
and

2969
02:10:37,830 --> 02:10:35,679
they had a very bulbous head

2970
02:10:40,790 --> 02:10:37,840
and

2971
02:10:43,750 --> 02:10:40,800
their cheek bones um

2972
02:10:45,109 --> 02:10:43,760
came right up they were closer together

2973
02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:45,119
on the face

2974
02:10:47,669 --> 02:10:46,000
um

2975
02:10:51,350 --> 02:10:47,679
than

2976
02:10:53,030 --> 02:10:51,360
know the the bulbousness of the rest of

2977
02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:53,040
the head um

2978
02:10:57,589 --> 02:10:55,199
and right over these you know tighter

2979
02:11:02,069 --> 02:10:57,599
higher cheekbones where you know these

2980
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:02,079
beautiful um almond eyes um

2981
02:11:07,669 --> 02:11:04,050
and

2982
02:11:14,470 --> 02:11:09,750
they

2983
02:11:17,350 --> 02:11:14,480
mouth that

2984
02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:17,360
um i did not i didn't see move it

2985
02:11:20,450 --> 02:11:18,880
doesn't mean

2986
02:11:22,310 --> 02:11:20,460
that it couldn't um

2987
02:11:23,189 --> 02:11:22,320
[Music]

2988
02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:23,199
i

2989
02:11:42,629 --> 02:11:35,840
they

2990
02:11:44,160 --> 02:11:42,639
i was helped onto

2991
02:11:45,669 --> 02:11:44,170
the table

2992
02:11:47,350 --> 02:11:45,679
[Music]

2993
02:11:51,270 --> 02:11:47,360
and

2994
02:11:53,830 --> 02:11:51,280
have been touching me

2995
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:53,840
after that when they put me into a

2996
02:11:57,030 --> 02:11:56,239
like a misty light um

2997
02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:57,040
that

2998
02:12:03,030 --> 02:11:59,119
was you know for i believe like a

2999
02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:03,040
diagnostics and and healing um i i

3000
02:12:09,270 --> 02:12:05,119
believe that i was like in a medical

3001
02:12:10,229 --> 02:12:09,280
facility did okay so

3002
02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:10,239
did you

3003
02:12:23,030 --> 02:12:19,030
they i was i laid

3004
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:23,040
supine on the table okay on my back

3005
02:12:29,830 --> 02:12:27,589
they

3006
02:12:32,830 --> 02:12:29,840
at some point

3007
02:12:34,709 --> 02:12:32,840
they removed my consciousness from my

3008
02:12:35,589 --> 02:12:34,719
body and

3009
02:12:37,910 --> 02:12:35,599
i

3010
02:12:41,109 --> 02:12:37,920
they they placed me

3011
02:12:44,149 --> 02:12:41,119
um i was in this like i said it was like

3012
02:12:47,030 --> 02:12:44,159
jimmy if you can imagine like mist you

3013
02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:47,040
know how fine really fine mist is in the

3014
02:12:53,589 --> 02:12:50,400
spring imagine that and that every

3015
02:12:55,510 --> 02:12:53,599
little particle of water is light

3016
02:12:59,669 --> 02:12:55,520
and that's what it was

3017
02:13:03,189 --> 02:12:59,679
and it was just bathing me and it felt

3018
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:03,199
it felt like so much love and

3019
02:13:04,709 --> 02:13:03,570
um

3020
02:13:08,069 --> 02:13:04,719
[Music]

3021
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:08,079
and compassion and empathy

3022
02:13:14,550 --> 02:13:12,000
it's i cannot explain to you

3023
02:13:18,069 --> 02:13:14,560
i just wish you could experience it i

3024
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:18,079
just want everyone to experience it

3025
02:13:25,990 --> 02:13:22,229
none

3026
02:13:30,310 --> 02:13:26,000
the

3027
02:13:33,510 --> 02:13:30,320
consciously communicate it is it's so

3028
02:13:35,589 --> 02:13:33,520
far beyond telepathy um you know

3029
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:35,599
telepathy sounds like more like the

3030
02:13:38,950 --> 02:13:37,040
mechanics of

3031
02:13:41,510 --> 02:13:38,960
reading people's thoughts and sending

3032
02:13:44,310 --> 02:13:41,520
them a you know a thought or trying to

3033
02:13:46,069 --> 02:13:44,320
at least and um most people when they

3034
02:13:48,550 --> 02:13:46,079
think of telepathy

3035
02:13:51,109 --> 02:13:48,560
also um

3036
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:51,119
unfortunately they go towards the idea

3037
02:13:55,030 --> 02:13:53,119
of reading thoughts instead of sending

3038
02:13:57,510 --> 02:13:55,040
and like actually wanting to have some

3039
02:14:00,470 --> 02:13:57,520
kind of legitimate communication it's

3040
02:14:02,310 --> 02:14:00,480
it's very bizarre and i am not an

3041
02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:02,320
advocate of

3042
02:14:05,830 --> 02:14:04,320
telepathy you know i think that it's

3043
02:14:09,189 --> 02:14:05,840
like it's

3044
02:14:11,830 --> 02:14:09,199
it's devoid of intention and mindfulness

3045
02:14:13,430 --> 02:14:11,840
and that's just not healthy for anyone

3046
02:14:14,790 --> 02:14:13,440
at any time so

3047
02:14:16,629 --> 02:14:14,800
um

3048
02:14:18,310 --> 02:14:16,639
so the conscious contact

3049
02:14:19,270 --> 02:14:18,320
the conscious communication

3050
02:14:20,390 --> 02:14:19,280
is

3051
02:14:23,910 --> 02:14:20,400
um

3052
02:14:26,390 --> 02:14:23,920
essentially you like you receive

3053
02:14:29,189 --> 02:14:26,400
like an image and in this image it goes

3054
02:14:32,069 --> 02:14:29,199
right into your mind it contains

3055
02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:32,079
their their intention it contains

3056
02:14:37,270 --> 02:14:36,000
emotion um and it contains information

3057
02:14:38,629 --> 02:14:37,280
um

3058
02:14:43,910 --> 02:14:38,639
and

3059
02:14:47,030 --> 02:14:43,920
now were you able to

3060
02:14:52,069 --> 02:14:48,629
were you able to

3061
02:14:54,470 --> 02:14:52,079
do it as well i know you're receiving it

3062
02:14:59,270 --> 02:14:54,480
and they're doing it were you able to

3063
02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:01,109
you know

3064
02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:04,800
i automatically communicated

3065
02:15:10,550 --> 02:15:08,320
and i don't i can't explain

3066
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:10,560
how it happened

3067
02:15:13,189 --> 02:15:12,000
i think it was

3068
02:15:16,390 --> 02:15:13,199
just that i

3069
02:15:17,589 --> 02:15:16,400
had set the intention to do it

3070
02:15:19,390 --> 02:15:17,599
and they

3071
02:15:21,830 --> 02:15:19,400
were doing it with me they were

3072
02:15:22,629 --> 02:15:21,840
facilitating that communication because

3073
02:15:30,149 --> 02:15:22,639
i

3074
02:15:33,189 --> 02:15:30,159
them at that moment

3075
02:15:38,470 --> 02:15:35,750
was this the being

3076
02:15:40,310 --> 02:15:38,480
that came to you

3077
02:15:44,069 --> 02:15:40,320
before

3078
02:15:47,350 --> 02:15:46,550
the lavender being yes was the same

3079
02:15:48,790 --> 02:15:47,360
being

3080
02:15:51,589 --> 02:15:48,800
yes

3081
02:15:55,189 --> 02:15:51,599
so

3082
02:15:57,270 --> 02:15:55,199
well that would mean that your encounter

3083
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:57,280
with wayne

3084
02:16:03,030 --> 02:16:00,560
was not an accident

3085
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:03,040
absolutely i have

3086
02:16:07,430 --> 02:16:06,560
yes that's that is correct

3087
02:16:08,950 --> 02:16:07,440
the

3088
02:16:14,149 --> 02:16:08,960
uh

3089
02:16:16,310 --> 02:16:14,159
the i've got eight zillion questions and

3090
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:16,320
i'm trying to pick the one

3091
02:16:22,790 --> 02:16:19,520
um at this moment okay let's actually go

3092
02:16:25,109 --> 02:16:22,800
back and and get to um uh some more

3093
02:16:26,390 --> 02:16:25,119
logistical stuff

3094
02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:26,400
um

3095
02:16:29,830 --> 02:16:27,840
we can

3096
02:16:31,830 --> 02:16:29,840
you'll be on the show again we'll we'll

3097
02:16:33,349 --> 02:16:31,840
we'll go in another direction but now

3098
02:16:34,629 --> 02:16:33,359
because we have other stuff we've got to

3099
02:16:38,230 --> 02:16:34,639
get to

3100
02:16:40,230 --> 02:16:38,240
you leave the base you mentioned earlier

3101
02:16:43,270 --> 02:16:40,240
that wayne said right slapped on the

3102
02:16:45,270 --> 02:16:43,280
arch this is where they teleport me back

3103
02:16:46,950 --> 02:16:45,280
is that how you got back to wayne's

3104
02:16:48,709 --> 02:16:46,960
house

3105
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:48,719
that is exactly how i got back to

3106
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:50,319
william's house and

3107
02:16:54,870 --> 02:16:53,040
and i think that they

3108
02:16:57,910 --> 02:16:54,880
were communicating with him at that

3109
02:17:00,709 --> 02:16:57,920
moment when he told me that in in his

3110
02:17:02,790 --> 02:17:00,719
home i believe that was to prepare me

3111
02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:02,800
for what was going to happen so that i

3112
02:17:05,349 --> 02:17:04,240
would understand

3113
02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:05,359
um

3114
02:17:10,950 --> 02:17:06,479
and

3115
02:17:13,270 --> 02:17:10,960
so yeah so we we when we left um again

3116
02:17:17,589 --> 02:17:13,280
it was the gray and i

3117
02:17:22,070 --> 02:17:17,599
and the tall whites were behind us

3118
02:17:24,389 --> 02:17:22,080
and we walked out into that alcove again

3119
02:17:25,190 --> 02:17:24,399
and wayne was standing there

3120
02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:25,200
and

3121
02:17:29,509 --> 02:17:27,280
um

3122
02:17:33,270 --> 02:17:29,519
the next thing that i

3123
02:17:35,270 --> 02:17:33,280
remember was that wayne stepped into the

3124
02:17:37,429 --> 02:17:35,280
space where i was

3125
02:17:38,549 --> 02:17:37,439
and as soon as he did

3126
02:17:39,910 --> 02:17:38,559
it was like

3127
02:17:40,790 --> 02:17:39,920
blink

3128
02:17:42,629 --> 02:17:40,800
and

3129
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:42,639
the next thing i see

3130
02:17:48,709 --> 02:17:43,840
is

3131
02:17:49,910 --> 02:17:48,719
house we're under that that

3132
02:17:53,509 --> 02:17:49,920
dang

3133
02:17:56,950 --> 02:17:53,519
and

3134
02:18:00,629 --> 02:17:56,960
scream

3135
02:18:02,709 --> 02:18:00,639
what the is going on

3136
02:18:04,389 --> 02:18:02,719
and wayne says

3137
02:18:05,830 --> 02:18:04,399
what did they say to you

3138
02:18:08,549 --> 02:18:05,840
what they tell you

3139
02:18:10,389 --> 02:18:08,559
and their friend goes oh you guys are

3140
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:10,399
back now that's what the

3141
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:12,960
is going on and it was like it was just

3142
02:18:17,190 --> 02:18:14,240
nothing and

3143
02:18:19,030 --> 02:18:17,200
and um and and wayne

3144
02:18:21,910 --> 02:18:19,040
just you know we

3145
02:18:23,750 --> 02:18:21,920
we had this incredible moment where

3146
02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:23,760
you know we had just experienced this

3147
02:18:28,150 --> 02:18:26,559
together and um he wanted to know what

3148
02:18:30,549 --> 02:18:28,160
they had talked about

3149
02:18:33,190 --> 02:18:30,559
um he had never been in the base

3150
02:18:34,790 --> 02:18:33,200
um up to that moment that he knew

3151
02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:34,800
and i want to you know make that very

3152
02:18:40,309 --> 02:18:38,080
clear you know wayne said that he had

3153
02:18:42,469 --> 02:18:40,319
never been into the base

3154
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:42,479
um i'm not so certain that wayne

3155
02:18:47,669 --> 02:18:45,040
remembers you know

3156
02:18:48,629 --> 02:18:47,679
at that point whether he had been in the

3157
02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:48,639
base

3158
02:18:53,669 --> 02:18:50,719
because this is you know this is a

3159
02:18:55,509 --> 02:18:53,679
funny funny kind of situation he just

3160
02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:55,519
knew that every time

3161
02:18:59,910 --> 02:18:57,760
they were finished conversing with him

3162
02:19:05,429 --> 02:18:59,920
they would send him back there was that

3163
02:19:09,669 --> 02:19:08,070
i do not believe so

3164
02:19:12,070 --> 02:19:09,679
i have

3165
02:19:14,469 --> 02:19:12,080
well the reason i say that is

3166
02:19:16,549 --> 02:19:14,479
um that i

3167
02:19:18,389 --> 02:19:16,559
they also visited me

3168
02:19:22,230 --> 02:19:18,399
at my home

3169
02:19:26,790 --> 02:19:22,240
and i went with them but i do not

3170
02:19:31,790 --> 02:19:27,970
okay explain

3171
02:19:33,349 --> 02:19:31,800
[Laughter]

3172
02:19:37,349 --> 02:19:33,359
explain

3173
02:19:39,990 --> 02:19:37,359
what you are trying to or can't i i

3174
02:19:42,469 --> 02:19:40,000
i i don't understand

3175
02:19:44,629 --> 02:19:43,509
i

3176
02:19:46,469 --> 02:19:44,639
woke up

3177
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:46,479
in my bed

3178
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:50,240
and there were four of them there

3179
02:19:54,550 --> 02:19:53,120
um and they were actually standing on my

3180
02:19:57,510 --> 02:19:54,560
bed

3181
02:20:00,230 --> 02:19:57,520
kind of hunched over towards me

3182
02:20:05,429 --> 02:20:00,240
grays grays

3183
02:20:07,910 --> 02:20:05,439
um yes grays okay and um all the same

3184
02:20:11,990 --> 02:20:07,920
size as the

3185
02:20:13,190 --> 02:20:12,000
the gray um you know the gray avatar um

3186
02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:13,200
and

3187
02:20:16,469 --> 02:20:15,359
um

3188
02:20:18,790 --> 02:20:16,479
and so

3189
02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:18,800
my my initials

3190
02:20:22,389 --> 02:20:21,520
immediately turned in to oh it's you

3191
02:20:24,230 --> 02:20:22,399
guys

3192
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:24,240
and i wasn't afraid

3193
02:20:28,870 --> 02:20:27,520
and i remember beginning to get up to

3194
02:20:29,750 --> 02:20:28,880
leave with them

3195
02:20:31,030 --> 02:20:29,760
um

3196
02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:31,040
and then

3197
02:20:35,750 --> 02:20:33,600
the next thing i remember is i'm i'm

3198
02:20:38,630 --> 02:20:35,760
back in my bed it's morning

3199
02:20:40,389 --> 02:20:38,640
i wake up and

3200
02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:40,399
okay there i am

3201
02:20:43,349 --> 02:20:42,000
um

3202
02:20:46,870 --> 02:20:43,359
did you

3203
02:20:47,910 --> 02:20:46,880
after you left wayne's that night

3204
02:20:51,510 --> 02:20:47,920
um

3205
02:20:54,070 --> 02:20:51,520
did you ever go back to wayne's property

3206
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:54,080
i did i went back the next day to pick

3207
02:20:57,590 --> 02:20:55,680
up my car

3208
02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:57,600
how did you get how did you get home

3209
02:21:02,070 --> 02:20:59,280
that night well you know what we'll come

3210
02:21:03,349 --> 02:21:02,080
back to that so you come back you you

3211
02:21:05,110 --> 02:21:03,359
get your car

3212
02:21:07,590 --> 02:21:05,120
other than that have you been back to

3213
02:21:10,469 --> 02:21:07,600
wayne's property

3214
02:21:12,950 --> 02:21:10,479
no i have not uh but he has

3215
02:21:15,830 --> 02:21:12,960
we were not in contact for a period of

3216
02:21:18,630 --> 02:21:15,840
time we are in contact now of course and

3217
02:21:21,590 --> 02:21:18,640
um i have of course an open invitation

3218
02:21:24,230 --> 02:21:21,600
to to visit him so

3219
02:21:26,150 --> 02:21:24,240
um does he know about uh the press

3220
02:21:28,710 --> 02:21:26,160
conference

3221
02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:28,720
he absolutely does yes they knew about

3222
02:21:34,950 --> 02:21:31,680
it before the press conference okay and

3223
02:21:36,710 --> 02:21:34,960
the the the base is on his property i'm

3224
02:21:38,230 --> 02:21:36,720
assuming he owns it it's private

3225
02:21:43,110 --> 02:21:38,240
property

3226
02:21:45,110 --> 02:21:43,120
right and so

3227
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:45,120
um wayne

3228
02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:48,000
knows of i mean did you make these plans

3229
02:21:51,990 --> 02:21:50,160
with wayne to to come back to the

3230
02:21:53,510 --> 02:21:52,000
property with you know a team of

3231
02:21:55,910 --> 02:21:53,520
scientists and

3232
02:21:58,469 --> 02:21:55,920
and and a camera crew from history

3233
02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:58,479
channel or whatever

3234
02:22:01,990 --> 02:22:00,960
um yeah

3235
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:02,000
um

3236
02:22:06,230 --> 02:22:03,520
yes so

3237
02:22:11,670 --> 02:22:06,240
of course wayne is involved in in this

3238
02:22:15,110 --> 02:22:11,680
stage of the process so um he is

3239
02:22:17,990 --> 02:22:15,120
very much willing to have the team come

3240
02:22:20,630 --> 02:22:18,000
come there um we are of course

3241
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:20,640
trying to figure out all of

3242
02:22:27,190 --> 02:22:23,120
the security precautions that we need to

3243
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:27,200
take um not only for him and his family

3244
02:22:34,070 --> 02:22:29,600
um but also for

3245
02:22:36,950 --> 02:22:34,080
the team that goes with us and um how to

3246
02:22:38,469 --> 02:22:36,960
how to protect um

3247
02:22:39,990 --> 02:22:38,479
protect from

3248
02:22:42,230 --> 02:22:40,000
anyone who

3249
02:22:45,110 --> 02:22:42,240
who may just try to force their way onto

3250
02:22:46,630 --> 02:22:45,120
the property and you know cause or cause

3251
02:22:47,590 --> 02:22:46,640
a problem um

3252
02:22:49,349 --> 02:22:47,600
so

3253
02:22:51,190 --> 02:22:49,359
we're he's very much involved in this

3254
02:22:53,750 --> 02:22:51,200
process um

3255
02:22:55,670 --> 02:22:53,760
i had someone ask if he was going to be

3256
02:22:58,870 --> 02:22:55,680
a member of the team and

3257
02:23:01,750 --> 02:22:58,880
what would make him an expert that who

3258
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:01,760
would be qualified it's just such a such

3259
02:23:07,429 --> 02:23:04,960
a crazy question um because i mean it's

3260
02:23:09,510 --> 02:23:07,439
his mountain and as far as i'm concerned

3261
02:23:11,910 --> 02:23:09,520
he's going to be standing right up front

3262
02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:11,920
beside me so um

3263
02:23:15,670 --> 02:23:14,160
we're we're very excited

3264
02:23:17,830 --> 02:23:15,680
about uh

3265
02:23:20,230 --> 02:23:17,840
about this whole process

3266
02:23:22,710 --> 02:23:20,240
they're ready they're they're they are

3267
02:23:25,349 --> 02:23:22,720
ready when when the beings are ready and

3268
02:23:28,950 --> 02:23:25,359
when the team is ready okay

3269
02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:31,750
um you know jimmy we were we've been

3270
02:23:34,710 --> 02:23:33,680
thinking about um

3271
02:23:37,349 --> 02:23:34,720
doing

3272
02:23:38,230 --> 02:23:37,359
like a

3273
02:23:44,389 --> 02:23:38,240
a

3274
02:23:45,670 --> 02:23:44,399
public would like in the community or i

3275
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:45,680
i don't know what you would call it but

3276
02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:48,479
just someone that that people can relate

3277
02:23:52,150 --> 02:23:50,080
to um

3278
02:23:54,630 --> 02:23:52,160
and so we wanted to

3279
02:23:57,750 --> 02:23:54,640
we've been discussing perhaps

3280
02:23:59,990 --> 02:23:57,760
putting a poll out um taking nominations

3281
02:24:00,790 --> 02:24:00,000
from the public and then putting a poll

3282
02:24:02,790 --> 02:24:00,800
out

3283
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:02,800
um and accepting

3284
02:24:07,990 --> 02:24:05,680
you know those results so

3285
02:24:10,230 --> 02:24:08,000
you've got work to do oh

3286
02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:10,240
i'll be last on that list i'll get one

3287
02:24:14,389 --> 02:24:11,200
vote

3288
02:24:17,830 --> 02:24:14,399
okay but um and i sure would like to

3289
02:24:19,750 --> 02:24:17,840
um okay now uh

3290
02:24:21,190 --> 02:24:19,760
let me look at the clock how was wayne's

3291
02:24:24,150 --> 02:24:21,200
health

3292
02:24:27,510 --> 02:24:24,160
you mentioned he had cancer

3293
02:24:29,270 --> 02:24:27,520
yes um it is it is better than it was

3294
02:24:31,830 --> 02:24:29,280
much better than it was

3295
02:24:32,710 --> 02:24:31,840
yes and you know we're very grateful for

3296
02:24:35,270 --> 02:24:32,720
that

3297
02:24:37,510 --> 02:24:35,280
uh what was the reason now let's

3298
02:24:39,590 --> 02:24:37,520
let's let's go

3299
02:24:41,110 --> 02:24:39,600
back i need to go back and get these

3300
02:24:43,910 --> 02:24:41,120
other questions out

3301
02:24:46,950 --> 02:24:43,920
you um were

3302
02:24:49,590 --> 02:24:46,960
a part of the dia

3303
02:24:50,630 --> 02:24:49,600
um has anybody

3304
02:24:53,030 --> 02:24:50,640
from

3305
02:24:55,030 --> 02:24:53,040
your past

3306
02:24:57,270 --> 02:24:55,040
contacted you

3307
02:24:59,910 --> 02:24:57,280
um recently

3308
02:25:01,510 --> 02:24:59,920
about this

3309
02:25:04,630 --> 02:25:01,520
through official

3310
02:25:08,870 --> 02:25:04,640
names in any way in any way

3311
02:25:15,990 --> 02:25:13,190
um oh i would think they're pretty aware

3312
02:25:18,469 --> 02:25:16,000
yes okay but in an official sense you

3313
02:25:21,670 --> 02:25:18,479
haven't been contacted

3314
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:21,680
that's right okay uh isn't that it

3315
02:25:30,389 --> 02:25:28,309
yes of course

3316
02:25:32,309 --> 02:25:30,399
you know what i want to talk about that

3317
02:25:33,349 --> 02:25:32,319
yes um

3318
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:33,359
you know

3319
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:37,040
i i find it interesting that no one has

3320
02:25:40,790 --> 02:25:39,439
a has contacted me through official

3321
02:25:43,270 --> 02:25:40,800
channels and

3322
02:25:46,150 --> 02:25:43,280
i've you know spent a lot of time trying

3323
02:25:48,710 --> 02:25:46,160
to analyze that what does that mean you

3324
02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:48,720
know what are the possibilities

3325
02:25:54,550 --> 02:25:50,960
and the possibilities that i come up

3326
02:25:58,550 --> 02:25:54,560
with um and i'm i'm open to more of them

3327
02:25:59,670 --> 02:25:58,560
uh but one is that they already know

3328
02:26:00,870 --> 02:25:59,680
um

3329
02:26:01,750 --> 02:26:00,880
and

3330
02:26:03,670 --> 02:26:01,760
so

3331
02:26:06,150 --> 02:26:03,680
i'm not telling them anything that they

3332
02:26:08,710 --> 02:26:06,160
don't know and i'm very transparent

3333
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:08,720
about it i've been incredibly vocal

3334
02:26:12,950 --> 02:26:09,840
um

3335
02:26:15,110 --> 02:26:12,960
and so you know that's a possibility

3336
02:26:16,309 --> 02:26:15,120
the other possibility is that they don't

3337
02:26:21,670 --> 02:26:16,319
know

3338
02:26:23,830 --> 02:26:21,680
me tell them um and make me take

3339
02:26:27,190 --> 02:26:23,840
military with me you know that sort of

3340
02:26:29,429 --> 02:26:27,200
thing um because i just won't go

3341
02:26:31,670 --> 02:26:29,439
it just won't happen

3342
02:26:33,670 --> 02:26:31,680
and so the only way to know

3343
02:26:36,230 --> 02:26:33,680
is to let me go

3344
02:26:39,190 --> 02:26:36,240
so that's another option

3345
02:26:40,950 --> 02:26:39,200
um and you know those are the two for me

3346
02:26:42,790 --> 02:26:40,960
that stand out the most and i'm you know

3347
02:26:44,790 --> 02:26:42,800
i'm i'm all ears

3348
02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:44,800
uh for what else it could be

3349
02:26:49,590 --> 02:26:46,960
um but those are the only

3350
02:26:52,070 --> 02:26:49,600
the most the two most viable is they

3351
02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:52,080
know or they don't and

3352
02:26:55,750 --> 02:26:53,200
they want to

3353
02:26:58,469 --> 02:26:55,760
now were you um

3354
02:27:01,110 --> 02:26:58,479
uh were you a civilian employee did you

3355
02:27:05,830 --> 02:27:01,120
have a gs classification

3356
02:27:08,550 --> 02:27:05,840
or were you a contractor without a gs

3357
02:27:11,750 --> 02:27:08,560
i had a gg

3358
02:27:13,349 --> 02:27:11,760
and i was also a contractor

3359
02:27:16,630 --> 02:27:13,359
did you

3360
02:27:19,510 --> 02:27:16,640
at some point have a security clearance

3361
02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:19,520
or you issued one

3362
02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:21,920
oh absolutely i had

3363
02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:25,520
um a top secret uh special access

3364
02:27:27,670 --> 02:27:26,880
programs

3365
02:27:29,429 --> 02:27:27,680
um

3366
02:27:32,309 --> 02:27:29,439
clearance so

3367
02:27:35,590 --> 02:27:32,319
yes i was i was very highly cleared

3368
02:27:38,710 --> 02:27:35,600
would would this like this show for

3369
02:27:41,190 --> 02:27:38,720
instance or your your press conference

3370
02:27:45,030 --> 02:27:41,200
i'm asking the obvious question but

3371
02:27:47,190 --> 02:27:45,040
um would that affect either

3372
02:27:49,830 --> 02:27:47,200
your security clearance if you still

3373
02:27:52,710 --> 02:27:49,840
have it or if you needed to get one in

3374
02:27:57,190 --> 02:27:54,389
um

3375
02:27:59,190 --> 02:27:57,200
well i guarantee you

3376
02:28:00,870 --> 02:27:59,200
um that

3377
02:28:02,230 --> 02:28:00,880
that i won't be getting one in the

3378
02:28:04,870 --> 02:28:02,240
future

3379
02:28:07,590 --> 02:28:04,880
i think that that you know that um

3380
02:28:09,670 --> 02:28:07,600
bridge has been nuked

3381
02:28:11,510 --> 02:28:09,680
um and hey i'm okay with that it was a

3382
02:28:13,830 --> 02:28:11,520
decision i made

3383
02:28:16,870 --> 02:28:13,840
it was a mindful decision it wasn't

3384
02:28:20,870 --> 02:28:16,880
accidental i didn't accidentally decide

3385
02:28:23,270 --> 02:28:20,880
you know to ruin my career i decided to

3386
02:28:25,429 --> 02:28:23,280
push for disclosure of

3387
02:28:26,389 --> 02:28:25,439
the contact with these beings as they've

3388
02:28:28,230 --> 02:28:26,399
instructed

3389
02:28:29,030 --> 02:28:28,240
um and

3390
02:28:30,309 --> 02:28:29,040
so

3391
02:28:31,429 --> 02:28:30,319
um

3392
02:28:32,790 --> 02:28:31,439
i don't know does that answer your

3393
02:28:34,389 --> 02:28:32,800
question i know i've already forgotten

3394
02:28:36,469 --> 02:28:34,399
what it was well it does and i'll tell

3395
02:28:38,469 --> 02:28:36,479
you why and you're gonna go jimmy you're

3396
02:28:40,389 --> 02:28:38,479
pretty smart

3397
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:40,399
in that in your

3398
02:28:44,309 --> 02:28:42,160
in your press conference you gave all of

3399
02:28:47,190 --> 02:28:44,319
your aliases previous names current

3400
02:28:50,630 --> 02:28:47,200
names possible future names and names in

3401
02:28:54,790 --> 02:28:50,640
another dimension right you gave us

3402
02:28:58,870 --> 02:28:54,800
right yes okay so when you do that there

3403
02:29:01,190 --> 02:28:58,880
are those out there that have access to

3404
02:29:03,670 --> 02:29:01,200
databases at the pentagon

3405
02:29:05,670 --> 02:29:03,680
and they can take your name input it

3406
02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:05,680
into the database and check you out

3407
02:29:10,790 --> 02:29:08,640
immediately look at your history and if

3408
02:29:13,110 --> 02:29:10,800
you have a security clearance and if you

3409
02:29:16,870 --> 02:29:13,120
are currently listed

3410
02:29:19,670 --> 02:29:16,880
am i am i spot on the money

3411
02:29:22,150 --> 02:29:19,680
um well that it's not that anybody can

3412
02:29:25,270 --> 02:29:22,160
do no no i don't mean anybody i'm saying

3413
02:29:28,870 --> 02:29:25,280
those that have access will take you

3414
02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:28,880
and and plug that into the system

3415
02:29:34,070 --> 02:29:32,560
they will do that absolutely um i

3416
02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:34,080
i do not

3417
02:29:40,389 --> 02:29:38,080
have any intention of ever needing

3418
02:29:41,910 --> 02:29:40,399
a security clearance i

3419
02:29:42,950 --> 02:29:41,920
do not

3420
02:29:44,710 --> 02:29:42,960
plan

3421
02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:44,720
on

3422
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:47,680
ever protecting a secret that i have

3423
02:29:52,070 --> 02:29:50,000
have learned

3424
02:29:54,389 --> 02:29:52,080
going forward you know what i'm saying

3425
02:29:55,429 --> 02:29:54,399
i'm not going to violate the oath of

3426
02:30:01,110 --> 02:29:55,439
what

3427
02:30:02,870 --> 02:30:01,120
but i am not

3428
02:30:06,230 --> 02:30:02,880
i am not willing

3429
02:30:08,150 --> 02:30:06,240
to um

3430
02:30:09,750 --> 02:30:08,160
pledge some kind of allegiance to

3431
02:30:12,309 --> 02:30:09,760
silence

3432
02:30:14,790 --> 02:30:12,319
in the name of national security at this

3433
02:30:16,230 --> 02:30:14,800
point cats out of the bag and it's not

3434
02:30:19,270 --> 02:30:16,240
going back in

3435
02:30:21,349 --> 02:30:19,280
and and i understand what that means um

3436
02:30:22,950 --> 02:30:21,359
i'm just not understanding

3437
02:30:25,270 --> 02:30:22,960
um

3438
02:30:27,990 --> 02:30:25,280
not entirely certain about

3439
02:30:30,870 --> 02:30:28,000
the silence um

3440
02:30:33,030 --> 02:30:30,880
the press conference and

3441
02:30:34,950 --> 02:30:33,040
me giving all of the information that i

3442
02:30:36,550 --> 02:30:34,960
gave was definitely for

3443
02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:36,560
um the people

3444
02:30:41,590 --> 02:30:37,760
who

3445
02:30:43,030 --> 02:30:41,600
weren't aware or people in the community

3446
02:30:43,990 --> 02:30:43,040
or prior people

3447
02:30:45,190 --> 02:30:44,000
um

3448
02:30:47,750 --> 02:30:45,200
that you know

3449
02:30:50,950 --> 02:30:47,760
you don't accidentally speak vernacular

3450
02:30:53,270 --> 02:30:50,960
it was very intentional vernacular

3451
02:30:56,150 --> 02:30:53,280
while at the same time making myself in

3452
02:30:58,790 --> 02:30:56,160
my my history and my life you know very

3453
02:31:02,710 --> 02:30:58,800
transparent um giving people public

3454
02:31:06,389 --> 02:31:02,720
access to to my linkedin profile that

3455
02:31:09,670 --> 02:31:06,399
that you know is is heavily attached to

3456
02:31:13,670 --> 02:31:09,680
um to my industry and

3457
02:31:15,349 --> 02:31:13,680
um or my former industry and you know um

3458
02:31:18,150 --> 02:31:15,359
it it was

3459
02:31:18,950 --> 02:31:18,160
it was a really big move for me um

3460
02:31:24,550 --> 02:31:18,960
i

3461
02:31:26,309 --> 02:31:24,560
to

3462
02:31:27,190 --> 02:31:26,319
keep anything

3463
02:31:30,150 --> 02:31:27,200
uh

3464
02:31:33,270 --> 02:31:30,160
out of the public view on this topic at

3465
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:33,280
all yeah you have to you have to uh

3466
02:31:38,389 --> 02:31:34,960
uh take the road that you did there

3467
02:31:39,270 --> 02:31:38,399
isn't another way to do it and certainly

3468
02:31:40,870 --> 02:31:39,280
uh

3469
02:31:43,030 --> 02:31:40,880
you know you're not you're not of

3470
02:31:44,710 --> 02:31:43,040
whistleblower status but when you jump

3471
02:31:47,590 --> 02:31:44,720
into this fear

3472
02:31:49,429 --> 02:31:47,600
you have to say who you are and you did

3473
02:31:51,110 --> 02:31:49,439
just that let's take our break we're

3474
02:31:53,030 --> 02:31:51,120
gonna come right back into overtime

3475
02:31:54,950 --> 02:31:53,040
anjali is with us

3476
02:31:56,870 --> 02:31:54,960
now when we come back

3477
02:31:59,030 --> 02:31:56,880
i got to get to the team of scientists

3478
02:32:01,349 --> 02:31:59,040
what is planned and how we are moving

3479
02:32:03,429 --> 02:32:01,359
forward and how she put that together

3480
02:32:05,510 --> 02:32:03,439
we'll do all of that next this is fade

3481
02:32:10,340 --> 02:32:05,520
to black i'm yours jimmy church

3482
02:32:27,190 --> 02:32:24,870
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02:32:30,070 --> 02:32:27,200
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02:32:34,309 --> 02:32:30,080
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3485
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3573
02:37:13,590 --> 02:37:11,590
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

3574
02:37:15,590 --> 02:37:13,600
your host jimmy church it is overtime

3575
02:37:18,630 --> 02:37:15,600
with anjali now

3576
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:18,640
um i wanted to say something briefly i

3577
02:37:24,309 --> 02:37:21,760
was looking at the chat and and twitter

3578
02:37:26,230 --> 02:37:24,319
and so forth in that uh

3579
02:37:29,190 --> 02:37:26,240
too many too many things were skipped

3580
02:37:31,270 --> 02:37:29,200
over and yes of course this is uh

3581
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:31,280
anjali's first time on the show

3582
02:37:36,630 --> 02:37:34,080
and i chose to take a broader context

3583
02:37:40,870 --> 02:37:36,640
with this i'd rather get as much

3584
02:37:43,670 --> 02:37:40,880
of a very detailed story into this first

3585
02:37:46,389 --> 02:37:43,680
show this is me this is how i converse

3586
02:37:49,190 --> 02:37:46,399
and everybody knows that um and we will

3587
02:37:50,950 --> 02:37:49,200
get two details i mean we could take one

3588
02:37:53,349 --> 02:37:50,960
section of this story

3589
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:53,359
and spend three hours on it on on this

3590
02:37:57,590 --> 02:37:54,720
broadcast so

3591
02:37:58,790 --> 02:37:57,600
uh that was my choice uh tonight and

3592
02:38:03,030 --> 02:37:58,800
also

3593
02:38:05,670 --> 02:38:03,040
um none of this absolutely zip was

3594
02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:05,680
discussed with anjali before the show i

3595
02:38:10,870 --> 02:38:08,080
don't do that with any guest

3596
02:38:12,710 --> 02:38:10,880
i go into this

3597
02:38:15,110 --> 02:38:12,720
trying to figure things out and i want

3598
02:38:18,389 --> 02:38:15,120
knowledge just like the rest of you

3599
02:38:20,230 --> 02:38:18,399
and uh and and that's it she has

3600
02:38:21,990 --> 02:38:20,240
no list of questions in front of her

3601
02:38:23,030 --> 02:38:22,000
that i sent her in advance or anything

3602
02:38:24,469 --> 02:38:23,040
like that

3603
02:38:26,830 --> 02:38:24,479
and uh

3604
02:38:29,270 --> 02:38:26,840
so there okay so that's my little

3605
02:38:31,910 --> 02:38:29,280
disclaimer uh for everybody in the chat

3606
02:38:34,630 --> 02:38:31,920
okay so just be patient rome wasn't

3607
02:38:35,750 --> 02:38:34,640
built in a day folks now

3608
02:38:39,830 --> 02:38:35,760
uh um

3609
02:38:43,510 --> 02:38:39,840
anjali say yes jimmy you go

3610
02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:43,520
go jimmy you know you're always right

3611
02:38:46,469 --> 02:38:45,120
okay now

3612
02:38:47,990 --> 02:38:46,479
thank you for that

3613
02:38:50,790 --> 02:38:48,000
um

3614
02:38:51,910 --> 02:38:50,800
my head is swimming i've got uh but but

3615
02:38:54,389 --> 02:38:51,920
we

3616
02:38:57,670 --> 02:38:54,399
one of the details with this

3617
02:38:59,910 --> 02:38:57,680
um as announced in your press conference

3618
02:39:03,030 --> 02:38:59,920
that uh you're gonna bring a team of

3619
02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:03,040
scientists have you uh and others but

3620
02:39:14,309 --> 02:39:11,190
not entirely jimmy no i have not

3621
02:39:16,710 --> 02:39:14,319
it's a pretty complex process as people

3622
02:39:18,469 --> 02:39:16,720
can imagine um

3623
02:39:20,950 --> 02:39:18,479
actually apparently a lot of people

3624
02:39:22,710 --> 02:39:20,960
cannot imagine that this is a complex

3625
02:39:24,950 --> 02:39:22,720
process because they're demanding it

3626
02:39:27,830 --> 02:39:24,960
that i just go and do it right now

3627
02:39:30,710 --> 02:39:27,840
um and that's simply not that's not what

3628
02:39:32,309 --> 02:39:30,720
they've chosen and um that is that is

3629
02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:32,319
not the way

3630
02:39:37,750 --> 02:39:35,120
through the soft disclosure that the

3631
02:39:39,110 --> 02:39:37,760
beings are asking for

3632
02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:39,120
part of

3633
02:39:42,710 --> 02:39:41,680
the soft disclosure will of course be

3634
02:39:51,270 --> 02:39:42,720
the

3635
02:39:54,230 --> 02:39:51,280
um with wayne and i and um

3636
02:39:57,990 --> 02:39:54,240
and then present that information

3637
02:40:00,230 --> 02:39:58,000
to the world it does not belong to them

3638
02:40:02,950 --> 02:40:00,240
it does not belong to me

3639
02:40:05,349 --> 02:40:02,960
and you know so these are like details

3640
02:40:08,070 --> 02:40:05,359
that people don't think about um we're

3641
02:40:10,870 --> 02:40:08,080
still trying to write up the

3642
02:40:12,150 --> 02:40:10,880
the the legal contract that people will

3643
02:40:13,990 --> 02:40:12,160
have to

3644
02:40:15,750 --> 02:40:14,000
to sign um

3645
02:40:17,750 --> 02:40:15,760
saying that that information does not

3646
02:40:20,230 --> 02:40:17,760
belong to them and that it must be

3647
02:40:20,950 --> 02:40:20,240
released publicly and trying to figure

3648
02:40:23,590 --> 02:40:20,960
out

3649
02:40:26,150 --> 02:40:23,600
the platform for that release and

3650
02:40:28,790 --> 02:40:26,160
you know how do we gather who holds all

3651
02:40:31,190 --> 02:40:28,800
of it you know just a lot of questions

3652
02:40:35,190 --> 02:40:31,200
that that we're trying to answer on our

3653
02:40:37,269 --> 02:40:35,200
end that cannot be answered on in the

3654
02:40:40,150 --> 02:40:37,279
time frame that you know public

3655
02:40:41,830 --> 02:40:40,160
sentiment may desire but if you really

3656
02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:41,840
want this to go well you're just going

3657
02:40:45,750 --> 02:40:43,520
to have to give me some time and space

3658
02:40:48,590 --> 02:40:45,760
to figure all of these very complex

3659
02:40:52,710 --> 02:40:48,600
details out have you

3660
02:40:54,309 --> 02:40:52,720
visualized uh the size of this team and

3661
02:40:56,790 --> 02:40:54,319
of course they have to fit right they

3662
02:40:59,510 --> 02:40:56,800
got to get into the the tunnel they have

3663
02:41:02,230 --> 02:40:59,520
to get it um so what what are we talking

3664
02:41:05,190 --> 02:41:02,240
about here what's uh what's how big is

3665
02:41:07,590 --> 02:41:05,200
this team going to be

3666
02:41:10,309 --> 02:41:07,600
i i really don't want to speculate on

3667
02:41:14,389 --> 02:41:10,319
that um at this point

3668
02:41:16,469 --> 02:41:14,399
uh i'm afraid that if i do so um that if

3669
02:41:18,389 --> 02:41:16,479
the need arises to

3670
02:41:20,469 --> 02:41:18,399
to change that number that

3671
02:41:22,950 --> 02:41:20,479
you know it just will be more difficult

3672
02:41:25,269 --> 02:41:22,960
for people to understand so i would

3673
02:41:26,309 --> 02:41:25,279
rather get closer to feeling like we

3674
02:41:29,190 --> 02:41:26,319
have that

3675
02:41:31,030 --> 02:41:29,200
complete picture of what we need um and

3676
02:41:31,910 --> 02:41:31,040
you know a big part of this process is

3677
02:41:34,070 --> 02:41:31,920
also

3678
02:41:36,309 --> 02:41:34,080
trying to learn from

3679
02:41:39,510 --> 02:41:36,319
from professionals um

3680
02:41:43,190 --> 02:41:39,520
what kind of equipment exists and what

3681
02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:43,200
they can offer um and and how we

3682
02:41:47,269 --> 02:41:45,760
how we get a hold of that quit equipment

3683
02:41:48,950 --> 02:41:47,279
um and

3684
02:41:51,830 --> 02:41:48,960
you know so this isn't

3685
02:41:53,269 --> 02:41:51,840
this isn't you know just a

3686
02:41:54,870 --> 02:41:53,279
a half-assed

3687
02:41:56,230 --> 02:41:54,880
you know walk through a tunnel that

3688
02:41:57,510 --> 02:41:56,240
we're talking about here we're talking

3689
02:42:01,030 --> 02:41:57,520
about bringing

3690
02:42:02,710 --> 02:42:01,040
some incredible evidence forward

3691
02:42:04,070 --> 02:42:02,720
for the public so that they can

3692
02:42:07,590 --> 02:42:04,080
understand

3693
02:42:10,790 --> 02:42:07,600
that that they are not alone and to get

3694
02:42:12,550 --> 02:42:10,800
a feeling for what the beings are here

3695
02:42:13,830 --> 02:42:12,560
for and

3696
02:42:16,790 --> 02:42:13,840
and this

3697
02:42:17,750 --> 02:42:16,800
this contact with the team

3698
02:42:20,309 --> 02:42:17,760
will

3699
02:42:22,790 --> 02:42:20,319
be a catalyst for

3700
02:42:26,630 --> 02:42:22,800
consciousness experiences for people all

3701
02:42:28,630 --> 02:42:26,640
across the planet it will become that um

3702
02:42:32,070 --> 02:42:28,640
because that is the intention that the

3703
02:42:34,070 --> 02:42:32,080
higher beings have at this time and

3704
02:42:36,550 --> 02:42:34,080
and they are driving this process and

3705
02:42:41,030 --> 02:42:36,560
that is the goal so once the conscious

3706
02:42:43,269 --> 02:42:41,040
contact happens on a wider scale

3707
02:42:45,429 --> 02:42:43,279
then at that point they will be

3708
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:45,439
comfortable enough with feeling that it

3709
02:42:48,309 --> 02:42:46,960
is time for them to come forward

3710
02:42:50,870 --> 02:42:48,319
physically

3711
02:42:53,349 --> 02:42:50,880
into the same space that we are in

3712
02:42:55,429 --> 02:42:53,359
now this is going to be a pretty

3713
02:42:58,870 --> 02:42:55,439
uh pretty

3714
02:43:01,030 --> 02:42:58,880
exclusive vip guest list right if if i

3715
02:43:03,510 --> 02:43:01,040
may be so cavalier to

3716
02:43:05,269 --> 02:43:03,520
to say it that way because i don't it's

3717
02:43:08,150 --> 02:43:05,279
not going to be 50 people

3718
02:43:09,190 --> 02:43:08,160
but it's probably going to be a dozen

3719
02:43:11,429 --> 02:43:09,200
and

3720
02:43:12,870 --> 02:43:11,439
or you know you know i'm just pulling

3721
02:43:18,070 --> 02:43:12,880
numbers out of the air i don't know

3722
02:43:21,429 --> 02:43:20,309
yeah and and now

3723
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:21,439
is

3724
02:43:26,389 --> 02:43:23,600
uh are they

3725
02:43:27,349 --> 02:43:26,399
suggesting

3726
02:43:28,550 --> 02:43:27,359
who

3727
02:43:31,670 --> 02:43:28,560
should be

3728
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:31,680
uh a part of this team

3729
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:35,200
you know politician religion scientists

3730
02:43:38,389 --> 02:43:37,439
scholars intellects

3731
02:43:45,110 --> 02:43:38,399
uh

3732
02:43:47,190 --> 02:43:45,120
you know i i i'm speculating here but

3733
02:43:52,150 --> 02:43:47,200
have they said

3734
02:43:55,910 --> 02:43:54,630
typically when i run when i have run

3735
02:43:57,910 --> 02:43:55,920
across

3736
02:43:59,590 --> 02:43:57,920
someone that they want because i

3737
02:44:02,630 --> 02:43:59,600
speculate you know i spend a lot of time

3738
02:44:05,190 --> 02:44:02,640
researching um they make it very clear

3739
02:44:06,630 --> 02:44:05,200
when it is someone that they that they

3740
02:44:09,670 --> 02:44:06,640
make it very clear they'll just you know

3741
02:44:11,830 --> 02:44:09,680
say yes yes and um

3742
02:44:13,510 --> 02:44:11,840
and they will you know show me their

3743
02:44:16,309 --> 02:44:13,520
face and they're happy

3744
02:44:19,349 --> 02:44:16,319
and so they have all kinds of ways of

3745
02:44:22,230 --> 02:44:19,359
um of communicating that that i'm

3746
02:44:24,550 --> 02:44:22,240
looking at the name of someone that they

3747
02:44:25,910 --> 02:44:24,560
would like to be there

3748
02:44:28,790 --> 02:44:25,920
really

3749
02:44:33,429 --> 02:44:28,800
okay all right okay okay that's that's a

3750
02:44:35,110 --> 02:44:33,439
whole show in itself uh right there um

3751
02:44:36,550 --> 02:44:35,120
you also

3752
02:44:37,910 --> 02:44:36,560
yes yes

3753
02:44:40,389 --> 02:44:37,920
um

3754
02:44:42,389 --> 02:44:40,399
i keep visualizing like a combination of

3755
02:44:44,950 --> 02:44:42,399
the movie arrival

3756
02:44:47,510 --> 02:44:44,960
in the movie contact right it's it's

3757
02:44:51,030 --> 02:44:47,520
it's kind of a weird mesh the

3758
02:44:52,550 --> 02:44:51,040
the date you uh you have stated that

3759
02:44:55,990 --> 02:44:52,560
this will happen

3760
02:44:57,990 --> 02:44:56,000
in 2021 can you elaborate

3761
02:45:01,670 --> 02:44:58,000
uh there's only a few months left right

3762
02:45:02,790 --> 02:45:01,680
we're now almost in september

3763
02:45:03,830 --> 02:45:02,800
that's right

3764
02:45:05,510 --> 02:45:03,840
um

3765
02:45:07,110 --> 02:45:05,520
there's really nothing else to elaborate

3766
02:45:08,469 --> 02:45:07,120
on it will happen before the end of

3767
02:45:11,990 --> 02:45:08,479
2021.

3768
02:45:14,469 --> 02:45:12,000
now is this is this is this

3769
02:45:18,070 --> 02:45:14,479
is is this from them

3770
02:45:19,910 --> 02:45:18,080
right this window of opportunity

3771
02:45:22,309 --> 02:45:19,920
yes

3772
02:45:23,429 --> 02:45:22,319
uh

3773
02:45:29,670 --> 02:45:23,439
the

3774
02:45:31,990 --> 02:45:29,680
uh if i may be so forward

3775
02:45:35,510 --> 02:45:32,000
this has to happen

3776
02:45:38,070 --> 02:45:35,520
yourself the cat is out of the bag this

3777
02:45:39,110 --> 02:45:38,080
cannot not happen

3778
02:45:43,429 --> 02:45:39,120
that's right

3779
02:45:46,389 --> 02:45:43,439
have absolutely every intention

3780
02:45:49,110 --> 02:45:46,399
of being present on site

3781
02:45:51,670 --> 02:45:49,120
in their base when we arrive and they

3782
02:45:53,429 --> 02:45:51,680
have every intention of allowing the

3783
02:45:55,269 --> 02:45:53,439
team that i bring

3784
02:45:58,790 --> 02:45:55,279
to communicate with them and to gather

3785
02:46:00,389 --> 02:45:58,800
their evidence because this is their

3786
02:46:02,230 --> 02:46:00,399
disclosure

3787
02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:02,240
do not think for a moment jimmy that

3788
02:46:06,790 --> 02:46:04,240
this is my disclosure

3789
02:46:09,670 --> 02:46:06,800
this is the higher being's disclosure

3790
02:46:10,870 --> 02:46:09,680
everything else in my life has come to a

3791
02:46:14,469 --> 02:46:10,880
halt

3792
02:46:18,469 --> 02:46:14,479
okay i mean it's like this is

3793
02:46:20,630 --> 02:46:18,479
they are driving this process and um i

3794
02:46:23,349 --> 02:46:20,640
have every intention of

3795
02:46:24,790 --> 02:46:23,359
of following their their guidance and

3796
02:46:27,990 --> 02:46:24,800
their instruction

3797
02:46:31,110 --> 02:46:28,000
so they say that this will be before the

3798
02:46:32,790 --> 02:46:31,120
end of 2021 that we will

3799
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:32,800
be

3800
02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:35,279
out of that tunnel with evidence of

3801
02:46:42,230 --> 02:46:36,160
their

3802
02:46:45,910 --> 02:46:42,240
undeniable irrefutable now um it's okay

3803
02:46:47,190 --> 02:46:45,920
for you to laugh as i say this

3804
02:46:50,150 --> 02:46:47,200
but

3805
02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:50,160
we don't need this to be a geraldo

3806
02:46:58,230 --> 02:46:52,319
rivera

3807
02:47:03,269 --> 02:47:02,230
i can completely agree with that um

3808
02:47:06,630 --> 02:47:03,279
of course

3809
02:47:08,870 --> 02:47:06,640
that would be very devastating um that

3810
02:47:12,389 --> 02:47:08,880
is not the intention that they have

3811
02:47:15,190 --> 02:47:12,399
communicated with me time and again um

3812
02:47:15,990 --> 02:47:15,200
and so i guess we're just gonna have to

3813
02:47:17,269 --> 02:47:16,000
wait

3814
02:47:20,630 --> 02:47:17,279
we're just gonna have to get through

3815
02:47:22,150 --> 02:47:20,640
that tunnel yes yes now um another

3816
02:47:24,389 --> 02:47:22,160
obvious question

3817
02:47:27,510 --> 02:47:24,399
you've been talking to wayne

3818
02:47:29,750 --> 02:47:27,520
they're still there right

3819
02:47:31,590 --> 02:47:29,760
yes right they're still there in other

3820
02:47:33,190 --> 02:47:31,600
words you know you go through the tunnel

3821
02:47:36,550 --> 02:47:33,200
you round the corner

3822
02:47:39,349 --> 02:47:36,560
and they packed up and moved

3823
02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:39,359
no no no no no there's they are not

3824
02:47:44,230 --> 02:47:41,680
packing up and moving on um

3825
02:47:47,590 --> 02:47:44,240
this is their disclosure i i cannot

3826
02:47:48,950 --> 02:47:47,600
repeat that enough um their intention is

3827
02:47:51,990 --> 02:47:48,960
to have

3828
02:47:54,790 --> 02:47:52,000
first contact with humanity widespread

3829
02:47:57,750 --> 02:47:54,800
contact um this is a very delicate

3830
02:48:00,230 --> 02:47:57,760
process um it's not just a physical

3831
02:48:01,750 --> 02:48:00,240
disclosure that they are here in the

3832
02:48:04,710 --> 02:48:01,760
same world with us it's also a

3833
02:48:08,150 --> 02:48:04,720
consciousness disclosure and the reason

3834
02:48:10,389 --> 02:48:08,160
that it is is because the only way that

3835
02:48:12,790 --> 02:48:10,399
we can communicate with each other is

3836
02:48:15,190 --> 02:48:12,800
through conscious communication and it

3837
02:48:18,469 --> 02:48:15,200
is a much more advanced form of

3838
02:48:20,309 --> 02:48:18,479
communication it is so full and rich

3839
02:48:22,870 --> 02:48:20,319
with intention and understanding and

3840
02:48:26,150 --> 02:48:22,880
information it's just far superior to

3841
02:48:28,150 --> 02:48:26,160
what we have been doing with each other

3842
02:48:29,510 --> 02:48:28,160
on this earth and they're saying that it

3843
02:48:30,950 --> 02:48:29,520
is time

3844
02:48:34,950 --> 02:48:30,960
there are changes that are happening

3845
02:48:36,150 --> 02:48:34,960
that make this absolutely necessary that

3846
02:48:38,790 --> 02:48:36,160
um

3847
02:48:41,269 --> 02:48:38,800
that we seek

3848
02:48:42,790 --> 02:48:41,279
changes so that we can have this

3849
02:48:45,429 --> 02:48:42,800
conscious communication with them and so

3850
02:48:46,469 --> 02:48:45,439
we're going through that process and

3851
02:48:48,870 --> 02:48:46,479
um

3852
02:48:51,429 --> 02:48:48,880
i know that there is a lot of impatience

3853
02:48:53,750 --> 02:48:51,439
um i understand i wish i could

3854
02:48:55,830 --> 02:48:53,760
say everything all at once and just get

3855
02:48:58,870 --> 02:48:55,840
it out there but you know that's just

3856
02:49:00,469 --> 02:48:58,880
not that's not reality that's just not

3857
02:49:01,269 --> 02:49:00,479
how it goes and

3858
02:49:02,150 --> 02:49:01,279
um

3859
02:49:06,389 --> 02:49:02,160
i'm

3860
02:49:07,670 --> 02:49:06,399
until it's done

3861
02:49:11,910 --> 02:49:07,680
now uh

3862
02:49:13,190 --> 02:49:11,920
with the other moments uh that have been

3863
02:49:16,790 --> 02:49:13,200
happening

3864
02:49:20,630 --> 02:49:16,800
um outside of this

3865
02:49:24,230 --> 02:49:20,640
project of of of yours and theirs

3866
02:49:26,550 --> 02:49:24,240
is is the senate the dod lou elizondo

3867
02:49:31,030 --> 02:49:26,560
the uap task force report

3868
02:49:33,670 --> 02:49:31,040
uh the dia uh uh the the media

3869
02:49:35,429 --> 02:49:33,680
uh and everything else that has been

3870
02:49:37,510 --> 02:49:35,439
happening not only over the last three

3871
02:49:39,750 --> 02:49:37,520
years but certainly over the last three

3872
02:49:44,550 --> 02:49:39,760
months

3873
02:49:46,150 --> 02:49:44,560
i i feel right and and i feel that the

3874
02:49:47,910 --> 02:49:46,160
the government and the military and

3875
02:49:50,710 --> 02:49:47,920
those agencies

3876
02:49:52,389 --> 02:49:50,720
know an awful lot about et and contact

3877
02:49:55,030 --> 02:49:52,399
that they're not telling us we're

3878
02:49:57,429 --> 02:49:55,040
getting close and there seems to be

3879
02:50:00,070 --> 02:49:57,439
some kind of dialogue with the rest of

3880
02:50:01,190 --> 02:50:00,080
the world right now in washington dc for

3881
02:50:03,510 --> 02:50:01,200
sure

3882
02:50:06,550 --> 02:50:03,520
but i also feel

3883
02:50:08,070 --> 02:50:06,560
a long time about that seriously i would

3884
02:50:09,910 --> 02:50:08,080
love to have that discussion it doesn't

3885
02:50:12,950 --> 02:50:09,920
even have to be on camera jimmy we can

3886
02:50:13,750 --> 02:50:12,960
have it anytime you want well and and

3887
02:50:18,710 --> 02:50:13,760
they

3888
02:50:20,469 --> 02:50:18,720
interrupted you okay go ahead and say

3889
02:50:23,510 --> 02:50:20,479
what

3890
02:50:26,070 --> 02:50:23,520
okay go ahead please in that they know

3891
02:50:29,110 --> 02:50:26,080
of bases uh on this planet i'm talking

3892
02:50:32,150 --> 02:50:29,120
about the military industrial complex

3893
02:50:33,349 --> 02:50:32,160
and and uh branches of the military they

3894
02:50:37,510 --> 02:50:33,359
they know

3895
02:50:39,429 --> 02:50:37,520
they have to yeah are they aware

3896
02:50:41,030 --> 02:50:39,439
say that again you know

3897
02:50:42,630 --> 02:50:41,040
i would say at this point that it you

3898
02:50:45,830 --> 02:50:42,640
know there are definitely factions

3899
02:50:48,150 --> 02:50:45,840
within the department of defense that

3900
02:50:52,389 --> 02:50:48,160
um and within the military-industrial

3901
02:50:54,070 --> 02:50:52,399
complex that are not only aware of the

3902
02:50:56,670 --> 02:50:54,080
presence of

3903
02:50:58,830 --> 02:50:56,680
um what may be

3904
02:51:00,550 --> 02:50:58,840
extraterrestrial or could be

3905
02:51:02,950 --> 02:51:00,560
ultra-terrestrial and i think that we

3906
02:51:05,830 --> 02:51:02,960
need to consider that

3907
02:51:08,150 --> 02:51:05,840
because our understanding of uh of what

3908
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:08,160
this is and where we are may not be as

3909
02:51:12,070 --> 02:51:10,800
complete as we think it is um

3910
02:51:12,870 --> 02:51:12,080
and

3911
02:51:15,190 --> 02:51:12,880
so

3912
02:51:16,630 --> 02:51:15,200
if nothing else they are aware of the

3913
02:51:20,309 --> 02:51:16,640
presence um

3914
02:51:21,510 --> 02:51:20,319
is there what i would call collusion um

3915
02:51:23,269 --> 02:51:21,520
between

3916
02:51:25,830 --> 02:51:23,279
beings and

3917
02:51:27,990 --> 02:51:25,840
various um factions of the military

3918
02:51:30,790 --> 02:51:28,000
industrial complex in the united states

3919
02:51:33,910 --> 02:51:30,800
i would say yes and um in other

3920
02:51:36,710 --> 02:51:33,920
countries i would say undeniably um

3921
02:51:38,150 --> 02:51:36,720
it's it's evidenced everywhere um

3922
02:51:40,070 --> 02:51:38,160
so

3923
02:51:42,469 --> 02:51:40,080
i don't i don't really know what that

3924
02:51:43,429 --> 02:51:42,479
what that means for what's happening to

3925
02:51:44,309 --> 02:51:43,439
me

3926
02:51:46,950 --> 02:51:44,319
okay

3927
02:51:48,469 --> 02:51:46,960
i don't know how i fit into this i see

3928
02:51:51,190 --> 02:51:48,479
the synchronicity

3929
02:51:53,190 --> 02:51:51,200
i see everything happening the the

3930
02:51:55,910 --> 02:51:53,200
beings are telling me

3931
02:51:58,630 --> 02:51:55,920
that everything is become you know

3932
02:52:01,030 --> 02:51:58,640
speeding up like this this cycle that we

3933
02:52:03,750 --> 02:52:01,040
are in is you know coming

3934
02:52:04,630 --> 02:52:03,760
to a fruition um

3935
02:52:09,110 --> 02:52:04,640
and

3936
02:52:11,990 --> 02:52:09,120
we're seeing that we're seeing that all

3937
02:52:13,110 --> 02:52:12,000
around us um and that's just more

3938
02:52:16,870 --> 02:52:13,120
evidence

3939
02:52:20,550 --> 02:52:16,880
that this is their disclosure

3940
02:52:21,830 --> 02:52:20,560
this is happening at their behest

3941
02:52:24,150 --> 02:52:21,840
now

3942
02:52:26,070 --> 02:52:24,160
i would i would

3943
02:52:26,830 --> 02:52:26,080
wonder if

3944
02:52:31,269 --> 02:52:26,840
the

3945
02:52:34,790 --> 02:52:31,279
pentagon is aware of this specific base

3946
02:52:40,070 --> 02:52:37,190
that's the question that i was trying to

3947
02:52:41,429 --> 02:52:40,080
determine the answer to earlier is

3948
02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:41,439
why haven't

3949
02:52:45,429 --> 02:52:42,640
they

3950
02:52:47,269 --> 02:52:45,439
approached me about the location of this

3951
02:52:49,670 --> 02:52:47,279
base well the answer is either because

3952
02:52:51,269 --> 02:52:49,680
they already know

3953
02:52:53,349 --> 02:52:51,279
or because

3954
02:52:55,269 --> 02:52:53,359
it becomes classified information and

3955
02:52:58,550 --> 02:52:55,279
then i wouldn't cooperate

3956
02:53:00,870 --> 02:52:58,560
um and that's that's true the truth of

3957
02:53:03,510 --> 02:53:00,880
the matter i've made it very very clear

3958
02:53:06,070 --> 02:53:03,520
that i am pushing for 100 transparency

3959
02:53:07,750 --> 02:53:06,080
in this um and

3960
02:53:09,990 --> 02:53:07,760
so i you know i certainly can't be

3961
02:53:11,269 --> 02:53:10,000
bullied into giving the location to

3962
02:53:13,269 --> 02:53:11,279
anyone

3963
02:53:16,230 --> 02:53:13,279
and that you know includes any

3964
02:53:17,110 --> 02:53:16,240
government i simply won't do it so

3965
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:17,120
um

3966
02:53:21,990 --> 02:53:19,200
the choice is to

3967
02:53:24,790 --> 02:53:22,000
sit back and be quiet um

3968
02:53:26,710 --> 02:53:24,800
or never find out and so they i don't

3969
02:53:28,389 --> 02:53:26,720
know where they don't and those are that

3970
02:53:30,309 --> 02:53:28,399
and you know what i'm saying i mean we

3971
02:53:32,389 --> 02:53:30,319
that gets us nowhere it's just

3972
02:53:35,429 --> 02:53:32,399
they either know or they don't

3973
02:53:37,590 --> 02:53:35,439
or and here's choice number three or we

3974
02:53:39,750 --> 02:53:37,600
might have been at four okay here's

3975
02:53:41,590 --> 02:53:39,760
choice number four

3976
02:53:42,870 --> 02:53:41,600
they are

3977
02:53:44,630 --> 02:53:42,880
um

3978
02:53:49,510 --> 02:53:44,640
feverishly

3979
02:53:55,429 --> 02:53:50,830
you know

3980
02:53:58,150 --> 02:53:55,439
um i would i would not doubt that

3981
02:54:00,790 --> 02:53:58,160
i mean i wouldn't doubt it but has wayne

3982
02:54:03,269 --> 02:54:00,800
talked about you know crazy

3983
02:54:06,670 --> 02:54:03,279
crazy surveillance vans driving around

3984
02:54:08,870 --> 02:54:06,680
his property and and you know a plumber

3985
02:54:11,670 --> 02:54:08,880
roto-rooter you know parts across the

3986
02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:11,680
street for a couple of days

3987
02:54:17,269 --> 02:54:14,240
oh no no no no his

3988
02:54:20,469 --> 02:54:17,279
where he is this property it's it's

3989
02:54:22,389 --> 02:54:20,479
fairly secluded i mean it's it's very

3990
02:54:23,429 --> 02:54:22,399
it's so secluded

3991
02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:23,439
that

3992
02:54:28,309 --> 02:54:25,200
anybody would stick out like a sore

3993
02:54:32,830 --> 02:54:28,319
thumb i mean you just cannot do it

3994
02:54:35,830 --> 02:54:32,840
um so if if if he if he's going to be

3995
02:54:38,630 --> 02:54:35,840
monitored um then it would be

3996
02:54:42,469 --> 02:54:38,640
completely uh covert monitoring because

3997
02:54:43,510 --> 02:54:42,479
any kind of overt monitoring will

3998
02:54:44,950 --> 02:54:43,520
you know they'll just be made

3999
02:54:46,630 --> 02:54:44,960
immediately and

4000
02:54:48,630 --> 02:54:46,640
you know you could chase them off his

4001
02:54:50,550 --> 02:54:48,640
land i mean that's just he's not going

4002
02:54:51,150 --> 02:54:50,560
to allow that i like your choice of

4003
02:54:55,110 --> 02:54:51,160
words

4004
02:54:56,469 --> 02:54:55,120
[Laughter]

4005
02:54:58,150 --> 02:54:56,479
overt

4006
02:55:00,469 --> 02:54:58,160
they would be made

4007
02:55:02,790 --> 02:55:00,479
immediately um

4008
02:55:04,870 --> 02:55:02,800
now uh

4009
02:55:06,710 --> 02:55:04,880
i know that you're talking to wayne and

4010
02:55:09,349 --> 02:55:06,720
i'm looking at the clock here we're

4011
02:55:11,910 --> 02:55:09,359
nearly uh completely out of time

4012
02:55:14,830 --> 02:55:11,920
so wayne hasn't seen anything suspicious

4013
02:55:19,030 --> 02:55:14,840
no black helicopters nothing crazy no

4014
02:55:20,630 --> 02:55:19,040
flyovers is so far so good

4015
02:55:22,230 --> 02:55:20,640
so far

4016
02:55:25,990 --> 02:55:22,240
so good

4017
02:55:28,309 --> 02:55:26,000
okay now uh one last question and by the

4018
02:55:30,870 --> 02:55:28,319
way thank you you've been very candid

4019
02:55:32,630 --> 02:55:30,880
and and very open tonight and i look

4020
02:55:34,950 --> 02:55:32,640
forward to our next uh

4021
02:55:36,710 --> 02:55:34,960
visit here on the show and

4022
02:55:39,429 --> 02:55:36,720
uh there's gonna be a lot of chatter out

4023
02:55:40,550 --> 02:55:39,439
there in the internet world of the

4024
02:55:43,910 --> 02:55:40,560
interweb

4025
02:55:44,790 --> 02:55:43,920
uh starting tomorrow yeah and i get that

4026
02:55:48,070 --> 02:55:44,800
um

4027
02:55:50,469 --> 02:55:48,080
what is the next step

4028
02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:50,479
and do you need help from the community

4029
02:55:57,429 --> 02:55:53,120
or is this something that you are

4030
02:56:01,670 --> 02:55:59,990
oh no i'm definitely not handling it on

4031
02:56:05,349 --> 02:56:01,680
my own um

4032
02:56:09,510 --> 02:56:05,359
i am leaning you know heavily on subject

4033
02:56:12,309 --> 02:56:09,520
matter experts on this i'm not um

4034
02:56:14,630 --> 02:56:12,319
i'm not deciding you know what kind of

4035
02:56:19,269 --> 02:56:14,640
equipment should come

4036
02:56:21,670 --> 02:56:19,279
with us i am asking people who know

4037
02:56:24,870 --> 02:56:21,680
about this sort of thing in various

4038
02:56:27,429 --> 02:56:24,880
industries what kinds of equipment and

4039
02:56:30,150 --> 02:56:27,439
what should be we be trying you know to

4040
02:56:33,030 --> 02:56:30,160
detect is there anything i'm missing um

4041
02:56:33,830 --> 02:56:33,040
it's it's not an easy process i we

4042
02:56:36,790 --> 02:56:33,840
really

4043
02:56:39,269 --> 02:56:36,800
just want you know to be thorough and

4044
02:56:42,389 --> 02:56:39,279
to do it right the first time and

4045
02:56:46,070 --> 02:56:42,399
for what we bring forth to be

4046
02:56:48,150 --> 02:56:46,080
so irrefutable and to be the raw data

4047
02:56:50,870 --> 02:56:48,160
um that's shared

4048
02:56:51,830 --> 02:56:50,880
internationally um that

4049
02:56:54,550 --> 02:56:51,840
it just

4050
02:56:56,469 --> 02:56:54,560
maybe people will sit down and and

4051
02:56:58,710 --> 02:56:56,479
and think a little bit about the nature

4052
02:57:02,070 --> 02:56:58,720
of their own existence

4053
02:57:04,710 --> 02:57:02,080
thank you so much anjali and also

4054
02:57:06,389 --> 02:57:04,720
i got to say thank you to alan steinfeld

4055
02:57:09,269 --> 02:57:06,399
right

4056
02:57:11,030 --> 02:57:09,279
yes i love allen he's so amazing yeah

4057
02:57:13,990 --> 02:57:11,040
he's uh

4058
02:57:16,150 --> 02:57:14,000
he's quite the troublemaker and uh and

4059
02:57:19,110 --> 02:57:16,160
he knows that he's awesome

4060
02:57:21,349 --> 02:57:19,120
and uh great friend uh uh for many many

4061
02:57:22,630 --> 02:57:21,359
years so i do want to reach out and say

4062
02:57:25,910 --> 02:57:22,640
thank you to alan i'm sure he's

4063
02:57:27,429 --> 02:57:25,920
listening right now anjali um be safe

4064
02:57:31,190 --> 02:57:27,439
out there

4065
02:57:34,309 --> 02:57:31,200
it's uh i can't imagine uh your world

4066
02:57:36,309 --> 02:57:34,319
right now but uh you know if you need

4067
02:57:38,389 --> 02:57:36,319
anything you know how to uh reach out to

4068
02:57:41,750 --> 02:57:38,399
me you've got all the all the secret

4069
02:57:42,710 --> 02:57:41,760
stuff okay i i love the secret stuff

4070
02:57:47,750 --> 02:57:42,720
thank you

4071
02:57:50,230 --> 02:57:47,760
anjali now right now um uh really

4072
02:57:53,750 --> 02:57:50,240
quickly and i almost forgot your social

4073
02:57:56,870 --> 02:57:53,760
media presence and the only way to reach

4074
02:57:58,309 --> 02:57:56,880
out to you is is via twitter at this

4075
02:58:01,670 --> 02:57:58,319
point

4076
02:58:03,349 --> 02:58:01,680
right that's how i would prefer yes okay

4077
02:58:05,429 --> 02:58:03,359
andrew leon

4078
02:58:09,590 --> 02:58:05,439
yeah and and we have that up in in

4079
02:58:11,190 --> 02:58:09,600
twitter and there may be a website in

4080
02:58:12,790 --> 02:58:11,200
the future

4081
02:58:15,030 --> 02:58:12,800
um and and

4082
02:58:17,269 --> 02:58:15,040
yes yes and when in it it will be

4083
02:58:19,590 --> 02:58:17,279
team-centric and and project-centric

4084
02:58:20,950 --> 02:58:19,600
like really focusing on the expedition

4085
02:58:24,710 --> 02:58:20,960
and the kind of data that we're trying

4086
02:58:27,429 --> 02:58:24,720
to create um and so we took it down um

4087
02:58:29,830 --> 02:58:27,439
amidst a lot of uh criticism and

4088
02:58:32,469 --> 02:58:29,840
controversy that that was really just a

4089
02:58:34,790 --> 02:58:32,479
dead end but you know i just

4090
02:58:37,030 --> 02:58:34,800
it just became more of a hassle than it

4091
02:58:40,469 --> 02:58:37,040
was anything else in my life and so and

4092
02:58:43,830 --> 02:58:40,479
we're repurposing it um and and we'll

4093
02:58:46,070 --> 02:58:43,840
present it you know very focused on um

4094
02:58:49,110 --> 02:58:46,080
the next steps so again that's you know

4095
02:58:51,910 --> 02:58:49,120
even more work that needs to be done so

4096
02:58:54,309 --> 02:58:51,920
and and when that's ready uh we will

4097
02:58:56,950 --> 02:58:54,319
certainly get it out there for for the

4098
02:58:59,349 --> 02:58:56,960
community anjali thank you so much enjoy

4099
02:59:01,349 --> 02:58:59,359
the rest of your night it was just an

4100
02:59:03,269 --> 02:59:01,359
absolutely incredible conversation again

4101
02:59:05,030 --> 02:59:03,279
thank you so much

4102
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:05,040
thank you it's my pleasure

4103
02:59:11,190 --> 02:59:09,040
anjali now i do have if you go over to

4104
02:59:14,070 --> 02:59:11,200
jimmychurchradio.com

4105
02:59:16,469 --> 02:59:14,080
her twitter is linked there and it's

4106
02:59:19,349 --> 02:59:16,479
also up in our twitter feed

4107
02:59:20,870 --> 02:59:19,359
and throughout the social media what a

4108
02:59:23,750 --> 02:59:20,880
great conversation tonight thank you

4109
02:59:26,389 --> 02:59:23,760
anjali and again very special thanks to

4110
02:59:28,950 --> 02:59:26,399
alan steinfeld you know who you are alan

4111
02:59:31,750 --> 02:59:28,960
and you are a troublemaker and uh thank

4112
02:59:34,389 --> 02:59:31,760
you so much and tomorrow night here on

4113
02:59:35,990 --> 02:59:34,399
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